General News Thread

[tobydawq]

Trofeo Baracchi is hardly a random cat.1 race through. It’s gained quite the cult icon status over the years thanks to its relatively unique format, the fact it hasn’t been run in over 30 years, and the fact that it used to be quite prestigious with a winners list full of cycling legends from yester-year. I’d be very surprised if it was to be brought back in some capacity without at least some media attention!

There was an article on Spaziociclismo from last fall where it was mentioned.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

It hasn't been raced for over 30 years. I doubt anyone, except people weirdly stuck in the past, even remembers it.
And if it was a 2-man TTT, we actually had a race like that recently, and there wasn't much fanfare when that got cancelled.

That's like saying the Tour de France is the same as the Tour de l'Ain because they both are mountaneous stages races that take place in France.

 

[nightowl]

There was an article on Spaziociclismo from last fall where it was mentioned.

Oh really? That’s a shame that it doesn’t appear to have materialized then

 

[RedheadDane]

That's like saying the Tour de France is the same as the Tour de l'Ain because they both are mountaneous stages races that take place in France.

Of course not. But my point still stands that Trofeo Baracchi was so long ago hardly anyone are likely to remember it.

 

[SafeBet]

Trofeo Baracchi was indeed scheduled to resume in 2023. Latest news is it won't take place this year but possibly next year.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Of course not. But my point still stands that Trofeo Baracchi was so long ago hardly anyone are likely to remember it.

Just because you don't remember/know about it, doesn't mean others don't. And if you're bringing the race back, then you'd surely focus on how it used to be prestigeous in order to draw attention to it.

 

[tobydawq]

Of course not. But my point still stands that Trofeo Baracchi was so long ago hardly anyone are likely to remember it.

Just stop exposing your ignorance... Of course people remember it or have heard of it.

 

[Netserk]

Of course not. But my point still stands that Trofeo Baracchi was so long ago hardly anyone are likely to remember it.

Who is Merckx? Surely no one remembers a rider from so long ago.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Of course not. But my point still stands that Trofeo Baracchi was so long ago hardly anyone are likely to remember it.

But you are young and we’re already alive when it was last held. Can‘t be too long ago, then.

 

[RedheadDane]

Just because you don't remember/know about it, doesn't mean others don't. And if you're bringing the race back, then you'd surely focus on how it used to be prestigeous in order to draw attention to it.

"A long time ago we had a race. It got cancelled. Now it's back, maybe."

Who is Merckx? Surely no one remembers a rider from so long ago.

Merckx is a bit more relevant than some race...

Still not sure how it's so much bigger than Duo Normand.

But you are young and we’re already alive when it was last held. Can‘t be too long ago, then.

Time works differently for different things. If a race was cancelled 10 years ago, that's a long time ago. A ten-year-old person obviously isn't old.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Still not sure how it's so much bigger than Duo Normand.

Duo Normand was just some random race named after two Canadian twin sisters.

 

[RedheadDane]

Duo Normand was just some random race named after two Canadian twin sisters.

I'm pretty sure it was a Duo Time Trial, held in Normandy.

 

[Netserk]

Merckx is a bit more relevant than some race...

Why?

 

[RedheadDane]

Why?

Because he's a person, who still very much plays a role in cycling.

 

[Netserk]

Because he's a person, who still very much plays a role in cycling.

Which relevant role to cycling does he play now?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm pretty sure it was a Duo Time Trial, held in Normandy.

I don't think so, but I don't really care that much about cycling history anyway.

I do know who Merckx is though. He was so good at being director of the Tour of Qatar, they named a time trial rave (or maybe it was a race?) after him.

 

[RedheadDane]

Which relevant role to cycling does he play now?

He's around. That alone makes him more relevant.
There's entirely too much focus on things being historical. It's races that are recent that matters.

 

[Netserk]

He's around. That alone makes him more relevant.
There's entirely too much focus on things being historical. It's races that are recent that matters.

He plays the role in cycling of being around?!

Are other people in similar roles currently as well-known and relevant?

What about past riders who are not around. Is Fausto Coppi well-known and relevant? Why is that, he is so ancient.

 

[tobydawq]

"A long time ago we had a race. It got cancelled. Now it's back, maybe."



Merckx is a bit more relevant than some race...

Still not sure how it's so much bigger than Duo Normand.



Time works differently for different things. If a race was cancelled 10 years ago, that's a long time ago. A ten-year-old person obviously isn't old.

Just stop.

 

[RedheadDane]

What about past riders who are not around. Is Fausto Coppi well-known and relevant? Why is that, he is so ancient.

People are just more important than races.

Anyway, the race isn't happening. Or maybe it is, we'll find out...

 

[nightowl]

He's around. That alone makes him more relevant.
There's entirely too much focus on things being historical. It's races that are recent that matters.

I don’t really understand this. Monuments are the biggest and most prestigious one-day races because of the history behind them. Iconic climbs are iconic because of what’s happened there in the past. History is so much of what shapes cycling as a professional sport.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

There also used to be a time trial event named after a British rider called Des Nations. I hope they also bring that back in the future.

 

[RedheadDane]

I don’t really understand this. Monuments are the biggest and most prestigious one-day races because of the history behind them. Iconic climbs are iconic because of what’s happened there in the past. History is so much of what shapes cycling as a professional sport.

Monuments don't get cancelled for 30+ years.

Sure, it's cool when races gets brought back, but usually they're just suddenly back on the calendar, without much fanfare.

I'll continue caring about races that are happening these days, not one that was last won - as I found out through a Wikipedia search - by Reverse Jakob Fuglsang.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Monuments don't get cancelled for 30+ years.

Züri Metzgete was often considered the sixth monument and that one disappeared rather abruptly too. You're really not helping your case here.

 

[RedheadDane]

You're really not helping your case here, nor your reputation in terms of being knowledgeable for that matter.

If Strade Bianche suddenly got cancelled, and didn't happen for 30 years, it would stop being relevant...
I don't care about being knowledgeable about past races. I care about the Now! I don't even have a reputation of being knowledgeable... I see you deleted it again, good thing, coz I don't know where you got that from.