General News Thread

[Michele]

He mention that he wants to keep Voeckler and Rollands, so that sounds like there's other teams interested in them and ready to do a higher offer.

Bmc have 20 millions while he wanna go from 7 to 9.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

He mention that he wants to keep Voeckler and Rollands, so that sounds like there's other teams interested in them and ready to do a higher offer.

Bmc have 20 millions while he wanna go from 7 to 9.

Plus Gaudin probably wants a bit more cash.

BMC could easily trim the budget by EUR4-6M without impacting results notable.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

http://sport.be.msn.com/rondevanbelgie/2013/fr/

Cancellara and Voeckler to ride the Tour of Belgium (May 21 - 26)

 

[will10]

http://sport.be.msn.com/rondevanbelgie/2013/fr/

Cancellara and Voeckler to ride the Tour of Belgium (May 21 - 26)

I thought Fabian was riding the Giro? He'll need permission from the Giro organisers after a DNF to start in Belgium.

 

[Ferminal]

It was never confirmed and became unlikely as time went on, especially since his successful classics season.

I doubt he will do any racing for the next month.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

It was never confirmed and became unlikely as time went on, especially since his successful classics season.

I doubt he will do any racing for the next month.

Yeah. I think he was dissatisfied with RSNT when he announced that he would be riding the Giro. I don't think that's the case anymore.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

http://sport.be.msn.com/rondevanbelgie/2013/fr/

Tour of Belgium (May 21 - 26)

Stage profiles are online, BTW.

 

[pastronef]

Gerdemann races again next year

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_80974.htm

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Bardiani-CSF to incorporate Marina Romoli Onlus into Giro d'Italia uniform. Nice to see.

 

[Michele]

Virenque wanna be back to pro ranks with an own team.

 

[thirteen]

Philippe Gaumont in a coma after suffering a heart attack

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Gerdemann races again next year

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_80974.htm

sounds more like he's end of career,. what an arrogant idiot

 

[movingtarget]

sounds more like he's end of career,. what an arrogant idiot

What career ? A career of one pointless attack after another. Had the road sense of a greyhound.

 

[RHRH19861986]

What career ? A career of one pointless attack after another. Had the road sense of a greyhound.

Gerdemann was not that bad. Remember his 2005 TdS stage win in Lenk, or 2007´s TdF Grand Bornand stage.

This switch to Milram was not great, and after that, at Leopard and RadioShack, he was just a helper who could easyly be replaced.

But at CSC and later T-Mobile/Columbia, he was a really good man.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

snipped..

But at CSC and later T-Mobile/Columbia, he was a really good man.

everybody were great at CSC and T-Mobile/HTC.

In reality Gerdemann is peloton fodder. Easily replaceable . If he thinks cycling is fun he should accept getting on a team without pushing the budget.

 

[RHRH19861986]

In reality Gerdemann is peloton fodder. Easily replaceable . If he thinks cycling is fun he should accept getting on a team without pushing the budget.

Reading between lines in the last months, I think it was him who was approached by Conti team Stölting to ride for them in 2013. He apparently chose to be out of the sport for one year instead of riding 3rd categorie.

Hondo decided to ride for 3rd class team Lamonta few years ago, and fought his way back to WT after spending some time at 2nd cat teams Diquigiovanni and Whirlpool.
Gerdemann is another kind of person. I think he isn´t willing to ride for less than 50.000 - 100.000 EUR a year. He won´t join a team weaker than a very good PCT. That´s just mentality.

Martin Reimer was out a year for other reasons, and finally came back this year in 2nd cat, so you see, the way back is possible for Gerdemann. Like he says, team managers know him and what he´s capable of. He is a solid rider and has no "clinic issues" to bring with him. On the other hand, he´s German, and if, at all, signing a German rider, teams choose 22yr olds coming from U23, and cost a lot less than a Gerdemann.

I wish Linus the best and know that most dislike him, and he knows that, too, but stays himself as a person, which I like.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Gerdemann was not that bad. Remember his 2005 TdS stage win in Lenk, or 2007´s TdF Grand Bornand stage.

This switch to Milram was not great, and after that, at Leopard and RadioShack, he was just a helper who could easyly be replaced.

But at CSC and later T-Mobile/Columbia, he was a really good man.

gerdemanns csc performances are best discussed in the clinic.

 

[RHRH19861986]

gerdemanns csc performances are best discussed in the clinic.

Correct

But, nonetheless, he arrived in pro Tour ranks like a rocket, which well indicates a certain class he had and still has. He was on CSC for six weeks when he dropped his TdS breakaway on a medium hard stage, which consisted of riders like Elmiger and other experienced men.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Correct

But, nonetheless, he arrived in pro Tour ranks like a rocket, which well indicates a certain class he had and still has. He was on CSC for six weeks when he dropped his TdS breakaway on a medium hard stage, which consisted of riders like Elmiger and other experienced men.

he was a so so u23 talent. but in csc he started flying from the get go and as soon as riis reformed his "ways" after 2005, gerdemann left immediately to t-mobile where his progress halted pretty much immediately

 

[RHRH19861986]

he was a so so u23 talent. but in csc he started flying from the get go and as soon as riis reformed his "ways" after 2005, gerdemann left immediately to t-mobile where his progress halted pretty much immediately

Gerdemann was considered as by far best U23 man at this time, but you´re not that wrong, though: he wasn´t allowed to show his talent that often, because already at this time, he had a difficult personality, and although being so talented, was mostly not nominated by German U23 coach Peter Weibel for the important U23 international races done by the national team.

He got his spot at CSC via great performances in his Akud Arnolds German U23 Bundesliga team (a national series of about 8 races a year), and most importantly because he was introduced to Riis by Jens Voigt...

 

[movingtarget]

Gerdemann was not that bad. Remember his 2005 TdS stage win in Lenk, or 2007´s TdF Grand Bornand stage.

This switch to Milram was not great, and after that, at Leopard and RadioShack, he was just a helper who could easyly be replaced.

But at CSC and later T-Mobile/Columbia, he was a really good man.

I remember his impressive stage win in the Tour but I also remember Feilliu's stage win re the Tour but what has he done since ?

 

[RHRH19861986]

I remember his impressive stage win in the Tour but I also remember Feilliu's stage win re the Tour but what has he done since ?

Not a lot, yes...

That´s maybe the problem of these riders who can finish a GT in Top20. All of them can win a Tour stage, but they are on the radar and so don´t have a lot of space.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Gerdemann was considered as by far best U23 man at this time, but you´re not that wrong, though: he wasn´t allowed to show his talent that often, because already at this time, he had a difficult personality, and although being so talented, was mostly not nominated by German U23 coach Peter Weibel for the important U23 international races done by the national team.

He got his spot at CSC via great performances in his Akud Arnolds German U23 Bundesliga team (a national series of about 8 races a year), and most importantly because he was introduced to Riis by Jens Voigt...

no he wans't he never wa.s he never did anything remarkable in u23 and he was 23 mind you when he signed with csc. big u23 talents signed at way younger age and won many u23 races. gerdemann never won anything. he was only massively hyped like usually happened with german riders at the time

 

[RHRH19861986]

no he wans't he never wa.s he never did anything remarkable in u23 and he was 23 mind you when he signed with csc. big u23 talents signed at way younger age and won many u23 races. gerdemann never won anything. he was only massively hyped like usually happened with german riders at the time

Well, like I said, he couldn´t show anything, because he hardly ever rode internationally. Within Germany, no one was close to him, he beat the guys who got selected for U23 national team and rode internationally by lenghts when racing against them in Bundesliga races.

He had offers to sign for ProTour teams already at 21 or 22, but teams finally decided against him because German federation and specifically U23 coach Weibel advised managers to not sign Gerdemann due to his "selfish and non teamplayer" mentality.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Well, like I said, he couldn´t show anything, because he hardly ever rode internationally. Within Germany, no one was close to him, he beat the guys who got selected for U23 national team and rode internationally by lenghts when racing against them in Bundesliga races.

He had offers to sign for ProTour teams already at 21 or 22, but teams finally decided against him because German federation and specifically U23 coach Weibel advised managers to not sign Gerdemann due to his "selfish and non teamplayer" mentality.

so he can't win races anymore, isn't a team player etc. Why would anybody with a brain hire the guy?