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sQiD said:
Lotto Soudal becomes Lotto Fix ALL (what a name !!! ) and changes jersey starting from Paris Nice.

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Only for Paris-Nice, not Tirreno or any other race.

They did the same last year with the same jersey

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Valv.Piti said:
This smells like a crash fiesta.

Nevertheless, a 35 km test against the clock for teams is always interesting. The Tour doesn't include them very often, but when they do, its at least 30-40 km, so chapeau in that aspect.
That TTT is 35km long? So the ASO is already preparing Froome's 5th Tour win?
:eek:

All in all I really don't like this start. This looks like the first two stages will simply be pan flat and there is no way you can defend something like that. Since the race is then going northwards I really hope we will at least get cobbles and/or dirt roads, but even if I don't see how 9 stages, which will probably completely take place in the North of France, can be interesting.
 
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Gigs_98 said:
mikii4567 said:
Gigs_98 said:
Valv.Piti said:
This smells like a crash fiesta.
That ITT is 35km long? So the ASO is already preparing Froome's 5th Tour win?
:eek:

TTT (though Sky will also build an advantage tbh)
I actually even knew that it's a TTT, no idea why I wrote ITT :eek:
You are forgiven. ;)
Tho a ITT had been even more interesting from my point of view. If I remember correctly, the time trial in 2008 was also in Cholet. The 'short' one Schumacher won.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Gigs_98 said:
mikii4567 said:
Gigs_98 said:
Valv.Piti said:
This smells like a crash fiesta.
That ITT is 35km long? So the ASO is already preparing Froome's 5th Tour win?
:eek:

TTT (though Sky will also build an advantage tbh)
I actually even knew that it's a TTT, no idea why I wrote ITT :eek:
You are forgiven. ;)
Tho a ITT had been even more interesting from my point of view. If I remember correctly, the time trial in 2008 was also in Cholet. The 'short' one Schumacher won.

Yeah, I would've loved it, especially if the next day was the rumoured dirt road stage. Two days of GC action in a row that early in the race and both of which would be very challenging.
Personally, like many of us, I dislike TTTs, but it's still decent we're getting a relatively long one.
 
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Alexandre B. said:
Mount Etna erupted today.

Will this cause some complications for the next Giro?

Don't think so. Etna is constantly an active volcano (the most active in Europe) and sometimes it has its moments when it decides to erupt. It happens every once in a a while and usually doesn't last that long. The eruptions usually aren't very intensive (ie. about 1/100 the power of the Iceland volcano in 2010) but the lava can obviously be very deadly. Zomegan had contingency plans ready in 2011 and I'm sure Vegni does now, too.
 
I have to admit that I actually kinda like ttt's. Either the short ones of below 10 kilometers which are held as pure showmanship to start off a gt. Or the 60-70 kilometers long ones from the US Postal Service days. But these 40 kilometers ttt's are neither fish nor fowl.
 
In my opinion GTs should constantly mix around with how many TTs (ITTs or TTTs) they have, when in the race those are, and how long they should be. Just like with all other types of stages. Though, as seen in the 2015 Tour, a TTT should be relatively early in the race.

staubsauger said:
I have to admit that I actually kinda like ttt's. Either the short ones of below 10 kilometers which are held as pure showmanship to start off a gt. Or the 60-70 kilometers long ones from the US Postal Service days. But these 40 kilometers ttt's are neither fish nor fowl.

What's the point of those? If a team has a ride like Tony Martin he could just pull the entire way, making it essentially a ITT with passengers.
 
Tour de Suisse route announced.

I guess its decent, but nothing more than that. No pure sprint stage is a plus, the time trial will be more deciding, but not particular fond of the mountain stages considering the geography they have available. Also, for the love of god, please stop with those 100 km stages, they are seriously driving me nuts. And the worst part of it is people actively are endorsing it!
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Tour de Suisse route announced.

I guess its decent, but nothing more than that. No pure sprint stage is a plus, the time trial will be more deciding, but not particular fond of the mountain stages considering the geography they have available. Also, for the love of god, please stop with those 100 km stages, they are seriously driving me nuts. And the worst part of it is people actively are endorsing it!
I think it's a more balanced route than last year which was very mountanous and discouraged GC riders who went to Dauphine.
For the 100 km stages, i prefer watching 2 hours of full gaz racing rather than waiting for 5 hours and nothing happen in the end. That's the new model of racing and i think we will see more of them in grand tours as teams continue to neutralize races. The inauguration of the Hammer series will also be a good opportunity to test something new and challenge the statu-quo.
 
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sQiD said:
Valv.Piti said:
Tour de Suisse route announced.

I guess its decent, but nothing more than that. No pure sprint stage is a plus, the time trial will be more deciding, but not particular fond of the mountain stages considering the geography they have available. Also, for the love of god, please stop with those 100 km stages, they are seriously driving me nuts. And the worst part of it is people actively are endorsing it!
I think it's a more balanced route than last year which was very mountanous and discouraged GC riders who went to Dauphine.
For the 100 km stages, i prefer watching 2 hours of full gaz racing rather than waiting for 5 hours and nothing happen in the end. That's the new model of racing and i think we will see more of them in grand tours as teams continue to neutralize races. The inauguration of the Hammer series will also be a good opportunity to test something new and challenge the statu-quo.
I don't really want to have this conversation again (this has been debated so many times on this forum), but I couldn't disagree more.
 
SBS in Australia lost access to all Italian races in 2017.

My ideal scenario for a GC is 25km TTT and 35km ITT - This allows individual riders as well as the teams to show their strength - TTT must be in the first three stages.
 
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sQiD said:
Valv.Piti said:
Tour de Suisse route announced.

I guess its decent, but nothing more than that. No pure sprint stage is a plus, the time trial will be more deciding, but not particular fond of the mountain stages considering the geography they have available. Also, for the love of god, please stop with those 100 km stages, they are seriously driving me nuts. And the worst part of it is people actively are endorsing it!
I think it's a more balanced route than last year which was very mountanous and discouraged GC riders who went to Dauphine.
For the 100 km stages, i prefer watching 2 hours of full gaz racing rather than waiting for 5 hours and nothing happen in the end. That's the new model of racing and i think we will see more of them in grand tours as teams continue to neutralize races. The inauguration of the Hammer series will also be a good opportunity to test something new and challenge the statu-quo.

When have you watched 5 hours of a Tour de Suisse stage? ;)

Nobody who is a serious TdF contender will do this race. Just like in the last years.
 
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Max Rockatansky said:
sQiD said:
Valv.Piti said:
Tour de Suisse route announced.

I guess its decent, but nothing more than that. No pure sprint stage is a plus, the time trial will be more deciding, but not particular fond of the mountain stages considering the geography they have available. Also, for the love of god, please stop with those 100 km stages, they are seriously driving me nuts. And the worst part of it is people actively are endorsing it!
I think it's a more balanced route than last year which was very mountanous and discouraged GC riders who went to Dauphine.
For the 100 km stages, i prefer watching 2 hours of full gaz racing rather than waiting for 5 hours and nothing happen in the end. That's the new model of racing and i think we will see more of them in grand tours as teams continue to neutralize races. The inauguration of the Hammer series will also be a good opportunity to test something new and challenge the statu-quo.

When have you watched 5 hours of a Tour de Suisse stage? ;)

Nobody who is a serious TdF contender will do this race. Just like in the last years.
We will soon watch that in this year TDF as the whole races will be broadcasted.