Giro 2013 rumours

[The Hitch]

Lol galibier. what a weak climb gradient wise for the giro. the fans will go bat **** when they hear a major mountain stage is finishing on a 5% climb.

moreover theres a small chance the Naples start might be a real tt. Hope.

 

[Eshnar]

Lol galibier. what a weak climb gradient wise for the giro. the fans will go bat **** when they hear a major mountain stage is finishing on a 5% climb.

moreover theres a small chance the Naples start might be a real tt. Hope.

Galibier?
Link?

 

[Red Rick]

It's on CN's home now. Should be interesting how they preceed it, if the giro was in august and zomegnan would still be the boss, i'm sure they would descend the galibier and climb col de rosael after that (20km at 10% average, top is at 3000). I expect the stage to be very similar like stage 18 of last year's tour. I think that would be dissappointing

 

[The Hitch]

Galibier?
Link?

Hang on. i know something about the giro that you don't. well this is a rare moment

ill tease you some more gavia is only famous giro climb considered so far and they will be going to vincenzo in honour of campagnolo. also some laps around the Florence worlds.circuit.

 

[The Hitch]

It's on CN's home now. Should be interesting how they preceed it, if the giro was in august and zomegnan would still be the boss, i'm sure they would descend the galibier and climb col de rosael after that (20km at 10% average, top is at 3000). I expect the stage to be very similar like stage 18 of last year's tour. I think that would be dissappointing

What the people want from that stage a bigger role for the Agnelo (or whatever the name was). I didn't link to cn because they make it out like the galibier will be the best mountain in giro history

 

[airstream]

I never was a fan of overly steep climbing. Riders should ride uphill, rather than crawl, that's why it is great news. To me, a perfect climbs looks like Tourmalet, Grappa or Manghen. Moreover, I was very glad that Zoncolan wasn't included in the Giro this year, because climbs like that should be used probably 1 of 4-5 years and not more often otherwise they inevitably lose their charm and sense of wonder getting something absolutely usual. In addition, an average gradient itself guarantees nothing. Terminillo is a hard climb but we all remember how the stage ended. Afterall, the Giro climbs in the Tour and the Tour climbs in the Giro is an unique mixing of genres, that's excellent from this viewpoint as well. I'm always all for such things.

 

[roundabout]

Sampeyre-Agnello-Izoard. Done. No need for anything else.

 

[jens_attacks]

Moreover, I was very glad that Zoncolan wasn't included in the Giro this year, because climbs like that should be used probably 1 of 4-5 years and not more often otherwise they inevitably lose their charm and sense of wonder getting something absolutely usual.

same here


if they will have again izoard +galibier it would be pretty awesome.how is that easy??the last 8,5 km of galibier from lautaret have 7% at more than 2000 m altitude.that's hard.

 

[Ferminal]

Sampeyre-Agnello-Izoard. Done. No need for anything else.

Yes, exactly my thinking.

Why you'd want to have an MTF on Galibier from Italy I don't know.

 

[Ferminal]

Although some laps of the Firenze circuit sounded good.

 

[Descender]

Sampeyre-Agnello-Izoard. Done. No need for anything else.

And finishing in Briançon. WIN.

 

[airstream]

Yes, Izoard is dead in terms of the perspective to organize MTF there. Maybe Acquarone is brave enough to include Granon though I doubt they can decide to use non-legendary Tour climb..

 

[Eshnar]

Hang on. i know something about the giro that you don't. well this is a rare moment

ill tease you some more gavia is only famous giro climb considered so far and they will be going to vincenzo in honour of campagnolo. also some laps around the Florence worlds.circuit.

first, lol at "vincenzo". The article surely meant Vicenza. And the Giro is definitely going there, I wrote it several times already.
As for Florence, wrote it already too.
Gavia being the only famous climb considered is basically impossible, since it's surrounded by 121424 famous climbs and you can't avoid them . Unless they do a MTT of course.
Finally, this Galibier rumour. It's not gonna happen.
That has the same reliability of Crostis+Zonc+Stantaria combo rumoured days ago.
Reasons for what they're not doing Galibier:
- It's fuc*ing May. Huge risk of snow. Who's gonna clear it?
- Who's gonna pay for this? What town? Why on earth should they go there? They're going to Briancon 90% sure. They won't go to Galibier. Even Alpe D'Huez si more likely than that.

 

[Eshnar]

And finishing in Briançon. WIN.

 

[airstream]

Damn.. Sorry, who and whom should pay to use Galibier as a MTF?

 

[Eshnar]

Damn.. Sorry, who and whom should pay to use Galibier as a MTF?

Stage finishes have a price you know.
Are there local authorities who could desire to pay for a MTF to Galibier? And why could they?

 

[airstream]

Stage finishes have a price you know.
Are there local authorities who could desire to pay for a MTF to Galibier? And why could they?

Hm, we don't know for sure, but why not. it's unlikely to be expensive and could be a great promo in the Giro decorations for Galibier. I see more obstacles in RCS' determination to put a decisive MTF in France

 

[Eshnar]

Hm, we don't know for sure, but why not. it's unlikely to be expensive and could be a great promo in the Giro decorations for Galibier.

I really don't think that a climb raced almost every year in the Tour needs a promo by the Giro.
(I wish it did though)
Surely the prize is not as expensive as the Tour per se, but you have to take into account spending other money to clean the road off season. And this would be done for just a few fans.

 

[Eshnar]

I see more obstacles in RCS' determination to put a decisive MTF in France

C'mon a MTF on Galibier will never be decisive in the Giro...

 

[airstream]

C'mon a MTF on Galibier will never be decisive in the Giro...

Oh, my bad. I took your list of rumors like a chronologically correct one. Then it's awful. Apparently Agnello-Izoard will be again.

 

[Eshnar]

Oh, my bad. I took your list of rumors like a chronologically correct one.

It should be correct indeed. But I'm sure I mentioned a possible queen stage in the western Alps after the French stage. Surely the race won't end in France.
Btw I was referring more to the Galibier being a joke compared to the Giro climbs than to the chronological order.

 

[McLovin]

Susa - Galibier 259 km
Mont Cenis, Iseran, Madeleine, Telegraphe, Galibier


But all this not in May, that's 100 %.
They could go Agnelo, Izoard and Granon. Again, not in May


Galibier in June

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

first, lol at "vincenzo". The article surely meant Vicenza. And the Giro is definitely going there, I wrote it several times already.
As for Florence, wrote it already too.
Gavia being the only famous climb considered is basically impossible, since it's surrounded by 121424 famous climbs and you can't avoid them . Unless they do a MTT of course.
Finally, this Galibier rumour. It's not gonna happen.
That has the same reliability of Crostis+Zonc+Stantaria combo rumoured days ago.
Reasons for what they're not doing Galibier:
- It's fuc*ing May. Huge risk of snow. Who's gonna clear it?
- Who's gonna pay for this? What town? Why on earth should they go there? They're going to Briancon 90% sure. They won't go to Galibier. Even Alpe D'Huez si more likely than that.

Serre Chevalier (the combined ski area of Chantemerle, Briancon and some other towns) hosted the Galibier stage at the Tour. These towns have more money to spend than Alpe d'Huez I'd say, as the skiing area is much larger. It's one of the larger ski "resorts" in France.

- It's fuc*ing May. Huge risk of snow. Who's gonna clear it?

The Galibier is a problem, but the Stelvio isn't? Obviously they'll have a back-up plan, like they do this year.

 

[Skip Madness]

If the Giro goes over the Galibier before revisiting the Fauniera or the Sampeyre, I'll kill myself.
































































































or at least write strongly worded forum posts

 

[Eshnar]

Serre Chevalier (the combined ski area of Chantemerle, Briancon and some other towns) hosted the Galibier stage at the Tour. These towns have more money to spend than Alpe d'Huez I'd say, as the skiing area is much larger. It's one of the larger ski "resorts" in France.

It still doesn't make much sense. A stage finish in Briancon would be more easy in all meanings...

The Galibier is a problem, but the Stelvio isn't? Obviously they'll have a back-up plan, like they do this year.

The Stelvio IS.
In fact, all the Valtellina is paying a lot, as shown by the fact that the stage goes mindlessly up & down through that valley.