Giro d'Italia Giro d‘Italia 2024 Stage 15, Manerba del Garda-Livigno (Mottolino), 222 km

[Salvarani]

People spend 6 hours watching this while expecting 2 km of action.

I say touch some god damn grass then

Not that anyone cares...

But I will have the TV on in the living room with the race while I sit on my balcony with door open with a book and getting some minutes in the sun. Then cook some food and do laundry in the afternoon.

 

[Salvarani]

I usually stick to the topic and discuss what opinions others express here or my own. If someone thinks that's patronising, that's their prerogative.

Is there anything on the topic of the thread that you disagree with me about specifically? Or is it just bad vibes?

I understand thats your perspective but I dont think it is a good attitude to have. Not seeming to care about how someone will/can interpret your words.

Anyway, I havent read all the posts so far. Just seeing multiple people seemingly having what you call "bad vibes", so you do seem aware about it, and I think I will side with the majority on that one.

Have a good day and lets enjoy the race.

 

[Rob5091]

DNS continue - Pronskiy at Astana a DNS today. Maybe more incoming.

 

[Netserk]

Pellizotti: "It's important to manage your efforts. Don't go too deep and ride always with the head. Also, if you are maybe a little bit in difficulty or the other riders try some attacks, it's better to only follow the pace and in the end after this stage I think the last part is difficult also - because the last 2 km are really steep, and for this I think it's too difficult to try some attacks."

 

[topcat]

I'm expecting a steamy breakaway and Bahrain to blow the race apart on the descent of the Mortirolo. You don't want to miss this one.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Pellizotti: "It's important to manage your efforts. Don't go too deep and ride always with the head. Also, if you are maybe a little bit in difficulty or the other riders try some attacks, it's better to only follow the pace and in the end after this stage I think the last part is difficult also - because the last 2 km are really steep, and for this I think it's too difficult to try some attacks."

So we won‘t even get the Sicilian descent attack.

 

[Red Rick]

Thanks for reminding us, neither the 2020 Col de la Loze stage nor the 2022 Granon stage had over 4500m of climbing. Seriously, using the finishing position is about the worst statistic you could possible use in cycling.

Its also just weird to apply stuff from 2020 to todays Pogacar.

IMO its clear Pogacar isnt as great on tappones with extreme amounts of climbing as he is at stages woth 2 or 3 20 to 30 minute climbs, but the extent of the difference gets comically oversold

 

[Netserk]

So we won‘t even get the Sicilian descent attack.

Bahrain have now already lured the suckers in to false sense of security. They think they'll have time to get back to the car and get some food - and then BAM, Caruso drills the descent and we have chaos from 65 km out!

 

[RedheadDane]

People spend 6 hours watching this while expecting 2 km of action.

This, Burgos, Dunkirk, Antwerp.
And those are just the ones I know for certain are broadcast.
Plenty of ways to occupy your time.

For the record; I'm not expecting 2 km of action. I have no expectations about those things, I just watch.

 

[Salvarani]

Huge crowds at the neutral start!

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Hahahhhahahahhaa the puncheur classics rider is gonna be exposed on a real gt stage for actually good climbers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1791940464926458027

View: https://twitter.com/StatsOnCycling/status/1791940464926458027?t=UthZyQIB-LVQj6IS3mdclA&s=19

Lovely stat, using bad altitude data and randomly excluding one-day races so it looks more impressive.

 

[Salvarani]

Its also just weird to apply stuff from 2020 to todays Pogacar.

Funny, that TT gets brought up quite often and the Dumo/Van Aert pic gets posted every day. Better put that to rest then.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Pellizotti: "It's important to manage your efforts. Don't go too deep and ride always with the head. Also, if you are maybe a little bit in difficulty or the other riders try some attacks, it's better to only follow the pace and in the end after this stage I think the last part is difficult also - because the last 2 km are really steep, and for this I think it's too difficult to try some attacks."

I guess, dolphins just aren't sharks (yes I know how bad they can be IRL)

 

[topcat]

I guess, dolphins just aren't sharks (yes I know how bad they can be IRL)

IRL stands for in real life and Ireland. In Ireland, we're the only ones keeping it real.
Tiberi for the win.

 

[Red Rick]

Such a queen stage not even Ewan is scared

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Whoever decided they would do a standing start at Km 0 today, should be fired.

 

[Salvarani]

Piccolo always missing the break and then a doomed attack on his own

 

[Bolder]

Its also just weird to apply stuff from 2020 to todays Pogacar.

IMO its clear Pogacar isnt as great on tappones with extreme amounts of climbing as he is at stages woth 2 or 3 20 to 30 minute climbs, but the extent of the difference gets comically oversold

In this particular Giro he's leagues beyond anyone else on ANY kind of climbing stage, plus equal first in TTing and honestly probably top 10 in sprinting.

Vs Vingegaard I probably agree about tapponi (is that the plural?) But I would say that in good shape he's as good as anyone in the context of GT GC (by that I mean he is racing to win the overall rather than snagging a stage win).

Now...that said...he is more likely to have a bad day on a tappone-type stage...question is whether any of his opponents are strong enough to take advantage of it.

 

[memyselfandI]

Whoever decided they would do a standing start at Km 0 today, should be fired.

Actually it's really good for a change me thinks..

 

[Red Rick]

In this particular Giro he's leagues beyond anyone else on ANY kind of climbing stage, plus equal first in TTing and honestly probably top 10 in sprinting.

Vs Vingegaard I probably agree about tapponi (is that the plural?) But I would say that in good shape he's as good as anyone in the context of GT GC (by that I mean he is racing to win the overall rather than snagging a stage win).

Now...that said...he is more likely to have a bad day on a tappone-type stage...question is whether any of his opponents are strong enough to take advantage of it.

Is it a question if you know the answer is a resounding no

 

[Salvarani]

What a weak break and Ineos, A2GR and Bahrain having no one in there is terrible.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Actually it's really good for a change me thinks..

Well, there‘s zero fight for the breakaway and now we get Lilian Calmejane versus Davide Bais today unless UAE chases.

 

[Red Rick]

A fitting break for this stage design

 

[Peyroteo94]

UAE call this break a treat. So weak!! Pogacar's win in coming!

 

[RedheadDane]

Whoever decided they would do a standing start at Km 0 today, should be fired.

I actually thought they were going to have some sort of ceremony, but they seemed to just... talk a bit, and then start.