Giro d'Italia Giro d‘Italia 2024, Stage 5, Genova-Lucca, 178 km

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Nov 16, 2013
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We’ll have to excuse his ignorance. He sits far back in the peloton for almost the whole race so doesn’t notice that there is always a moto in front of the peloton.

Yes, the Madrid stage and Limburg last year really proved that he is a loser wheelsucker....
 
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Mar 4, 2011
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Yes, the Madrid stage and Limburg last year really proved that he is a loser wheelsucker....
I didn’t say anything about wheelsucking—all sprinters need to stay in the pack and have teammates work for them. My point is from that position none of the sprinters have much a sense of how often there is a moto in front of the peloton and of course they have No Idea Whatsoever how much time motos helped the break.

Sorry moving target, that quote was from Tobydawg. I screwed something up in the comment box.
 
Jul 10, 2012
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Wonder how that happened. He definitely will not be going for GC at this rate of random time losses.
I picked him on my fantasy team more because I thought he could get some stage wins or placings and less because of GC aspirations, so I'm fine with him shipping time and getting a longer leash
 
Perhaps Lipowitz lost time on purpose

He was almost too good as a mountain dom the other day, let him off the leash and go for some stages+KOM maybe
Unless he lost it by letting go in the final kms, it makes little sense. It's not enough to get a free pass to go in breaks. And riding alone 1m behind the peloton is hardly saving energy either.

Wonder how that happened. He definitely will not be going for GC at this rate of random time losses.
Which rate of random timelosses do you mean? He couldn't follow on the first day. So the only random loss was today. Or did he lose time in other stages?
 
Mar 19, 2009
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Which rate of random timelosses do you mean? He couldn't follow on the first day. So the only random loss was today. Or did he lose time in other stages?

I consider him not being able to follow the first day also somewhat random. As in I don't see why a guy who can chew of 10 seconds from Pogacars lead the one day, looses time on the mentioned two other days out of 5 overall. It's a bit wild for inconsistency don't you think?
That's what I meant by random.
 
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Sprinters teams, oops. Brilliant riding from the four in that break. Any one of them would have been deserving of the win.
 
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i was actually impressed with Pietrobons tactics. too often guys keep taking pulls with riders they know they'll lose the sprint to, or they wait too long to stop taking pulls. especially riders on smaller teams often just ride to keep the top 4 finish on the stage. but he actually risked it for a chance at the win and almost did it.
 
Feb 20, 2010
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Wonder how that happened. He definitely will not be going for GC at this rate of random time losses.
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Beyond the brilliant riding from the breakaway, what were Lidl-Trek doing? You have the fastest sprinter in the race* and you sit off?

*maybe Merlier