Giro dell'Emilia 2024 (Oct. 5)

[Netserk]

Much weaker 2022 Vuelta compared to 2024 Tour. And he won the world TT title this year so that cancels out 2022. So your argument sits on LBL but this is swamped by the official points.

LBL 2022 was 500 UCI points.
Podium in 2024 Tour is worth 880 points.

And Remco was way stronger in this years Tour than he was in the 2022 Vuelta. Anyway if your opinion can't be swayed that's fine.

Remco Evenepoel

Remco Evenepoel (born 2000-01-25 in Aalst) is a professional road racing cyclist from Belgium, currently riding for Soudal Quick-Step. His best results are 2 wins in Liège - Bastogne - Liège and 3 wins in Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa.

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So 3rd in the Tour is used to counter both Liège and the Vuelta?

 

[Red Rick]

And yet prime Roglič beats him 7 times out of ten on this course.

Not this Pogacar

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So 3rd in the Tour is used to counter both Liège and the Vuelta?

3rd at the Tour vs Vuelta win
Olympic RR Gold vs WC RR Gold
Two TT Golds vs Liege win

 

[Cookster15]

So 3rd in the Tour is used to counter both Liège and the Vuelta?

No, just Liege. As I mentioned Remco was more impressive in his Tour podium than when he won the Vuelta. And even UCI points confirm this.

 

[sam6]

I think Remco had a better season 2022.

Based on performances, this is his best ever year. Based on results, 2022 was better

 

[johnymax]

Not this Pogacar

Maybe, but I think 2020, 2021 Rogla against this Pogačar would be a 50/50 battle in Emilia.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Based on performances, this is his best ever year. Based on results, 2022 was better

This. You put 2022 Pogacar or 2022 Vingegaard in the Vuelta and Remco loses 10 minutes

 

[Red Rick]

Maybe, but I think 2020, 2021 Rogla against this Pogačar would be a 50/50 battle in Emilia.

Also big no.

Roglic himself is better than in 2020/2021 in absolute terms. In relative terms, he hasn't aged lost that much and it's essentially just that Pogacar and Vingegaard passed him by.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Give me anybody, other than a random rider from UAE.
How about the reformed Tiberi.

 

[Sciatic]

Looking at this startlist it's a little confusing how nine years ago, we had a podium in this race consisting of Jan Bakelants, Andrea Fedi and Ángel Madrazo...

Yeah, but if you look at all the podiums of the 20-30 years, it’s a very accomplished group of mostly GC-type climbers overall, moreso than we get in some monuments. Really impressive for this sized race.

 

[RedheadDane]

Give me anybody, other than a random rider from UAE.

I don't think UAE will ride for a random rider.
They got this guy, pretty easy to spot, wearing stripes around his chest.

 

[Netserk]

No, just Liege. As I mentioned Remco was more impressive in his Tour podium than when he won the Vuelta. And even UCI points confirm this.

You say "no", but then immediately afterwards use it for both.

 

[johnymax]

Also big no.

Roglic himself is better than in 2020/2021 in absolute terms. In relative terms, he hasn't aged lost that much and it's essentially just that Pogacar and Vingegaard passed him by.

I disagree. Maybe he is not a worse climber in high mountains, but he was so much more explosive back then. He was by far the best sprinter/puncher in any group of climbers he was in, if we don't count Pogačar. And I believe he was more explosive than Pogačar if the race wasn't hard and long enough. Now he gets occasionally beaten in a sprint by the Gaudus and Vlasovs of this world and barely outpunches Mas on a final suited to him. There was no way todays Remco outsprints (flat ot uphill) 2020 Rogla, now I give them probably 50/50 chances.

So for a hilly course like Emilia, prime Rogla was in 2020/2021 and IMO even the super saiyan Pogi of today doesn't easily beat him.

Now that doesn't mean much for tomorrow. Pogi is a huge favourite, we all know that.

 

[houtdffan]

is this race even watchable in the USA

No max, flo, nor peacock coverage

virus infested streams are not going to fly

 

[johnymax]

View: https://youtu.be/6iehWcvgpNQ?si=Kah5aBKqr1d1zDUz


Last year. Beautiful.

 

[houtdffan]

Why is this not a world tour race?

 

[topcat]

Pogacar will win unless he wants to throw some scraps to the pups before he obliterates another Lombardia. What a fuckng time to be a cycling fan.

 

[Rob5091]

Pozzovivo's last week in the pro peloton - ef Pogi and the rest. Forza Domenico!

 

[Hugo Koblet]

View: https://youtu.be/6iehWcvgpNQ?si=Kah5aBKqr1d1zDUz


Last year. Beautiful.

I love how Ciccone becomes "chick corner" and Roglic "raw glitch" when subtitles are turned on 😅

 

[BigCoward]

Pogacar will win unless he wants to throw some scraps to the pups before he obliterates another Lombardia. What a fuckng time to be a cycling fan.

He really should. This race makes no difference whatsoever to him, his team has done everything he's asked this year (except Ayuso).

 

[Salvarani]

He really should. This race makes no difference whatsoever to him, his team has done everything he's asked this year (except Ayuso).

His teammates won a lot of races as well.

Most of them, except one rider, has no problem working for Pog. They know he is much better than them.

But it is not the important race. However, he hasnt won this one so he might want it. He has won Tre Valli Varesine.

Lombardia is obviously the most important one.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I disagree. Maybe he is not a worse climber in high mountains, but he was so much more explosive back then. He was by far the best sprinter/puncher in any group of climbers he was in, if we don't count Pogačar. And I believe he was more explosive than Pogačar if the race wasn't hard and long enough. Now he gets occasionally beaten in a sprint by the Gaudus and Vlasovs of this world and barely outpunches Mas on a final suited to him. There was no way todays Remco outsprints (flat ot uphill) 2020 Rogla, now I give them probably 50/50 chances.

So for a hilly course like Emilia, prime Rogla was in 2020/2021 and IMO even the super saiyan Pogi of today doesn't easily beat him.

Now that doesn't mean much for tomorrow. Pogi is a huge favourite, we all know that.

Last year Rogla still had a strong stomp here. We will see this year, he used it very rarely this season and maybe declined indeed.

 

[rghysens]

Pogacars 2024 season vs Pogacars history of bottling Emilia.

I will pick the former

Yeah. Pogacar fingers in nose riding a unicycle.

 

[Peyroteo94]

View: https://youtu.be/6iehWcvgpNQ?si=Kah5aBKqr1d1zDUz


Last year. Beautiful.

As a Pogacar fan I thought the same, it was really beautiful because no one was expecting Roglic to drop Pogacar. After this duel, some of us started to think Roglic might win Lombardia but then Pogacar destroyed the field.

 

[RedheadDane]

Yeah. Pogacar fingers in nose riding a unicycle.

That might actually give the others somewhat of a chance.
However, would he be allowed to wear the Rainbow Bands then? I mean... he's not unicycle World Champion.