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staubsauger said:
Gigs_98 said:
staubsauger said:
:surprised: Twice Mortirolo and twice Stilfser Joch!

Oropa simply should've been a mtt like in 2007 as instantly rumored. Kinda useless stage!
Mortirolo twice?
That's what cyclingnews wrote!?

Only Stilfser Joch twice!
They probably count the Umbrailpass as the Stilfser Joch, since the pass is on the same street just a few kilometers lower. However Although we will more or less see the Stilfser Joch twice, both climbs are not from it's most difficult side, so this isn't much more special than any other two HC climbs.
 
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SafeBet said:
Epic Indurain mentioning the climb to Isola d'Elba (?) and the Zoncolan among the puertos they will climb in the Giro 2017 :D
He said there will be only "classic climbs", emphasising that Zoncolan won't be there. (Spanish is my mothertongue)
 
It looks to be a testing but balanced route - Imagine this route compared to the TDF will have many of the second tier GC guys pondering whether to do the Giro or the TDF - I can see internal disagreements between team directors,sponsors and riders.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Valv.Piti said:
What's the thoughts on the stage in the Dolomites? I think it could be an amazing stage if they are racing. On the other hand, it could also be pretty disastrous.
This stage should be taken out back and shot. It's a mercy killing.
If it were in 2018's Giro would you feel the same?

Because I don't like it as a dolomite stage for the 100th Giro, but in and of itself I think it's an interesting stage design, and would make a cool stage.
 
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I dislike the route more and more, just take a look at the map this Giro: way too many (long) transfers and most important: not all of Italy's regions are visited, not even near...
 
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Valv.Piti said:
SafeBet said:
Confirmed Etna won't be climbed on the same road of 2011.

Edit: it's exactly the road I posted a few pages back.
Seems like it will create more gaps than expected. Not bad at all. Thats really the big plus about this route, the 2 first MTF's are very hard.
Etna looks to be relatively easy, going by the official profile. Somewhat harder than La Toussuire.

 
The last week is just depressing, particularly considering what they could have done with those stage finishes. The worst thing about the route is how good it could have been with just a few changes.
 
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Maybe there's a reason for the crappy mountain stages (a few of them are too short and don't feature any real climbs before the final climb) and the 2 mid length ITTs, you could see it as a tribute to the Moser/Saronni years and the many bad routes that they had in the 80ies. :D
 
Ataraxus said:
Ashhutch97 said:
Gigs_98 said:
Meh

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And WTF is this? Be ashamed whoever is responsible for this:
I really hope this is not true, if we dont get a Stelvio from prato for the 100th edition of the Giro im literally going to give up with this route.
I seriously don't get all the obsession with climbing Stelvio from Prato.
The only positive change these last days had, was the design of this stage TBH.
It is much more in favor of long-range attacks than the first alternative.
Stelvio from Prato is much more selective when raced as a descent than as a climb. Umbrail is much more selective when raced as a climb than as a descent. 2-0 in favor of the final profile. Case closed.

what is wrong with the stage again? three monster killer mountains amounting a huge vertical ascending while being laid on a lengthy 228 km span? :confused:
 
hfer07 said:
Ataraxus said:
Ashhutch97 said:
Gigs_98 said:
Meh

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And WTF is this? Be ashamed whoever is responsible for this:
I really hope this is not true, if we dont get a Stelvio from prato for the 100th edition of the Giro im literally going to give up with this route.
I seriously don't get all the obsession with climbing Stelvio from Prato.
The only positive change these last days had, was the design of this stage TBH.
It is much more in favor of long-range attacks than the first alternative.
Stelvio from Prato is much more selective when raced as a descent than as a climb. Umbrail is much more selective when raced as a climb than as a descent. 2-0 in favor of the final profile. Case closed.

what is wrong with the stage again? three monster killer mountains amounting a huge vertical ascending while being laid on a lengthy 228 km span? :confused:
3 reasons.
-They still could have put more climbs before the Mortirolo and the stage wouldn't even become longer.
-They use the Mortirolo from its by far crappiest side.
-IMO they use Umbrail and Stelvio in the false order. I have to say though that this is only my opinion. There are also people who are happy that they use Stelvio first.
 
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Breh said:
Why cram in even more climbs?
Well, to make it even more difficult :D
I understand that some say that would be overkill, but I think one more pass would have been okay. I mean, these climbs are hard, but I have the feeling that because the first two passes have the name Mortirolo and Stelvio people automatically think that these climbs are absolute monsters, which just isn't the case. And if this stage was possible I don't see a reason why another climb would have been too much.
 

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