Giro d'Italia 2017 STAGE 20: Pordenone – Asiago 190 km

[SlickMongoose]

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Jungles was richt To chase. Not So much Mollema and Yates. Yates did his best To gift Jungels à chance at boni seconds

Yeah, that was dumb.

 

[Climbing]

Yes Tom has a huge debt to Jungels and Mollema.
Too bad they didn't really work together in front, can't understand certain riders...

 

[movingtarget]

Will Quintana miss the podium ? Movistar really weakened in the last few days.

 

[fauniera]

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I can't understand the tactics of any of Movi, Bahrein and FDJ. They left it too late on Foza. They should've gone for it to drop Dumoulin a lot earlier. Now they were just hoping Dumoulin would have a bad day again.

Absolutely. Reichenbach should have hammered Foza from the start. Idiots.

 

[Arredondo]

Great racing at the end. Pinot confirms his great shape!

Normally Tom should won this. The only but is: can he hold himself together tomorrow?

Suspense!! Suspense!!!

 

[Climbing]

Wow did you see the interview, Tom looks devastated!
Shouldn't be a problem I think.

 

[woodburn]

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If Nibali wins the same seconds/km on Quintana tomorrow as he did in the first TT, he's gonna gain 33 seconds.

Have to think the flatter TT will favor him more, though.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Jungles was richt To chase. Not So much Mollema and Yates. Yates did his best To gift Jungels à chance at boni seconds

Mollema has public opinion to consider.

 

[ppanther92]

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Why were Jungels, Mollema and even Yates pulling with Dumoulin? Stage?

Anyway, Big Tom should have this in the bag.

Jungels cause he wins stage if it comes back.
Mollema cause him and Dumo buddies.
Yates cause Movistar runied his GC.

Always good to have friends.

Sums it up quite nicely.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Did Pozzovivo try to sprint? :lol:

It was a great effort, I was thrilled.
The guy is legend.

If it had worked I think my mind might have imploded.

 

[dgodave]

Weird podium girl flesh-tent clothings.

 

[deValtos]

There's only one rider here who has shown himself to be a worthy winner of the race, Tom. I think I'd be disappointed with anyone else as it would seem a bit undeserved.

 

[huge]

Very interesting that the first 4 in GC have all won a stage.

 

[DFA123]

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I can't understand the tactics of any of Movi, Bahrein and FDJ. They left it too late on Foza. They should've gone for it to drop Dumoulin a lot earlier. Now they were just hoping Dumoulin would have a bad day again.

Nibali, Quintana and co. should have attacked on Grappa when there were 7-8 riders left.

That would have been suicide. They clearly just don't have the legs to do anything more than grind out a few seconds. They would have been hung out to dry in the valley. Even when Dumoulin cracked yesterday and Pinot went, they just couldn't summon the energy to do more than follow their domestiques. This last week has just been ridiculously hard, so that no-one can sustain an attack.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

A few people need to keep that question in mind "Why didn't Quintana go earlier/harder/more pulls" next time their on their bike going up their last climb of the day.

The guys are not robots. If any of them could have done more, they would have. No one is head and shoulders above the rest to just ride away from the bottom, and it's silly to expect a rider to switch on an attack like a light switch.

 

[DFA123]

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If Nibali wins the same seconds/km on Quintana tomorrow as he did in the first TT, he's gonna gain 33 seconds.

Have to think the flatter TT will favor him more, though.

Don't rule out the moto factor as well. On a slight downhill course, a few friendly 'helpers' for Nibali could make a monumental difference.

 

[Andro]

If everybody loses the amount of second/km to Dumoulin as in the first TT, the result tomorrow will be:

Dumoulin
Nibali +1'31
Zakarin +1'40
Pinot +1'56
Quintana +2'04

Which would make the GC:

Dumoulin
Quintana +1'11
Nibali +1'17
Pinot +1'46
Zakarin +2'02

Obviously lots of things are different and it's a lot more about recovery now, so gaps will probably be way different, but still.

 

[jaylew]

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Anyone knows where the worlds best climber Landa was who could've easily won without losing time in first week?

Oh, come on. You mean the guy who's been in a ton of breaks, including going solo yesterday? No way to know where he'd be in the GC mix if not for the crash but that's just a ridiculous comment.

Again with the Landa is the greatest rhetoric? Enough already... jeez...

Beautiful strawman. Have you ever seen me post anything like that? I'm fairly ambivalent towards Landa but to make a comment about Landa's performance today after the breaks he's been in recently, particularly yesterday, is just trolling and just as bad as the "Landa would have won" posts.

 

[ontheroad]

I think some people on here think that Quintana and Nibali in particular just have to press a button and attack when and as often as they like. And not only that but repeat it day after day. It never ceases to amuse me on here how some people forget the brutality and suffering of the sport whilst watching from their armchair. A reality check wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Movistar DS apparently giving an interview from some other race where Movistar tried absolutely everything today. That race sounds great. Does anyone have a link to the highlights?

 

[SafeBet]

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A few people need to keep that question in mind "Why didn't Quintana go earlier/harder/more pulls" next time their on their bike going up their last climb of the day.

The guys are not robots. If any of them could have done more, they would have. No one is head and shoulders above the rest to just ride away from the bottom, and it's silly to expect a rider to switch on an attack like a light switch.

Nibali said the same thing after the stage. He's sure Nairo was at his limit, otherwise he would have tried to drop him.

 

[dgodave]

Great stage.
I loved watching the last 30km.
Worthy stage winner.
Pretty finishing town.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Mollema said after the race he promised Dumoulin he would take over on the flat bit.

A bit of dutch combine after all.

 

[Irondan]

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If everybody loses the amount of second/km to Dumoulin as in the first TT, the result tomorrow will be:

Dumoulin
Nibali +1'31
Zakarin +1'40
Pinot +1'56
Quintana +2'04

Which would make the GC:

Dumoulin
Quintana +1'11
Nibali +1'17
Pinot +1'46
Zakarin +2'02

Obviously lots of things are different and it's a lot more about recovery now, so gaps will probably be way different, but still.

The way Dumoulin has been riding the past couple days I think shows he'll show up for the ITT in decent enough shape to make some serious noise.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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If everybody loses the amount of second/km to Dumoulin as in the first TT, the result tomorrow will be:

Dumoulin
Nibali +1'31
Zakarin +1'40
Pinot +1'56
Quintana +2'04

Which would make the GC:

Dumoulin
Quintana +1'11
Nibali +1'17
Pinot +1'46
Zakarin +2'02

Obviously lots of things are different and it's a lot more about recovery now, so gaps will probably be way different, but still.

I wouldn't be surprised if Quintana actually hangs on with couple of seconds but that might be a dream as well. Tomorrows TT is shorter, has a easier course and goes downhill.