Giro d'Italia 2020, stage 11: Porto S.Elpidio – Rimini 182 km

[Leinster]

lol I like sprints. I’m nearly the only person who frequently comments in all the top sprinters’ rider threads! I just don’t want another one tomorrow. And other than Demare, who has been excellent, the sprinting here so far has been very poor anyway.

That’s a bit of a self-referencing valuation, isn’t it? “Other than the 3 wins by the dominant sprinter in the race, who also happens to be the dominant sprinter on the WT this season, the sprinting’s been poor.” Sagan’s been picking up the same top 5s in Italy as he did in France (until today, obv).

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

That’s a bit of a self-referencing valuation, isn’t it? “Other than the 3 wins by the dominant sprinter in the race, who also happens to be the dominant sprinter on the WT this season, the sprinting’s been poor.” Sagan’s been picking up the same top 5s in Italy as he did in France (until today, obv).

Sagan hasn’t been picking up the same top 5s. He’s been the clear number 2 sprinter. His only real rival for second fastest sprinter here, and clear number three, has been Michael Matthews. After that it has just been random guys mixed around each day. Neither Sagan nor Matthews has won a single big bunch sprint this season. Or in a year and a half in fact. In any level of race. Am I supposed to consider that strong competition because there are also in theory very fast sprinters in the field who are rolling in 12th?

As for dominant WT sprinter, at the risk of being further assumed to be running down a rider I have in fact liked and regularly cheered for for years, I should point out that Demare’s last WT win before this Giro was also a year and a half ago.

 

[Amazinmets87]

So many spoilt babies on this forum. GTs used to have loads of flat, sprint stages but if organisers dare to give the sprinters the odd chance to shine loads of people burst into tears on here because there isn’t a 36% wall in the final km.

I think the aversion to sprint stages is based on concern the GT won't be completed.

 

[movingtarget]

Demare time. Matthews gone home and wasn't getting that close anyway. Sagan for second............

 

[Fernandez]

So many spoilt babies on this forum. GTs used to have loads of flat, sprint stages but if organisers dare to give the sprinters the odd chance to shine loads of people burst into tears on here because there isn’t a 36% wall in the final km.

So your point is that like always have been many flat stages so then is what always should be.
LOL
The truth is the vast majority of people dont like flat stages like this so the less of them the better.

 

[SKSemtex]

Demare time. Matthews gone home and wasn't getting that close anyway. Sagan for second............

Sagan time. Matthews gone home and wasn't getting that close anyway. Demare for second............

 

[SafeBet]

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[SKSemtex]

Today it will be a difficult day for FDJ domestic. They will have to work all day if they want a win and maximum points for Demare.
I do not think anybody is going to help them to chase BOD.

 

[fuiers]

Sagan hasn’t been picking up the same top 5s. He’s been the clear number 2 sprinter. His only real rival for second fastest sprinter here, and clear number three, has been Michael Matthews. After that it has just been random guys mixed around each day. Neither Sagan nor Matthews has won a single big bunch sprint this season. Or in a year and a half in fact. In any level of race. Am I supposed to consider that strong competition because there are also in theory very fast sprinters in the field who are rolling in 12th?

As for dominant WT sprinter, at the risk of being further assumed to be running down a rider I have in fact liked and regularly cheered for for years, I should point out that Demare’s last WT win before this Giro was also a year and a half ago.

I believe Bling won Bretagne Classic.

 

[tobydawq]

I believe Bling won Bretagne Classic.

Not in a bunch sprint.

 

[fuiers]

Not in a bunch sprint.

Maybe not the toughest sprint but still he had to work for it. Suddenly WT races dont count for a victory and sprints are not sprints if the gap is not 0.01 sec on the line.

 

[tobydawq]

Maybe not the toughest sprint but still he had to work for it.

But it wasn't a bunch sprint! And that was what Zinoviev wrote.

 

[savornin]

This is the Giro... I want MOUNTAINS!

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

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[fuiers]

Some of the statements/arguments in here remind me of Movistar tactics. As in they make no sense.

 

[tobydawq]

Some of the statements/arguments in here remind me of Movistar tactics. As in they make no sense.

Are you talking about me?

Zinoviev wrote that Matthews hadn't won a bunch sprint in more than a year and a half.

Then you wrote that he had won the Bretagne Classic.

Which he did but it wasn't from a bunch sprint.

I don't really know how my posts don't make sense. You know what a bunch sprint is, right?

 

[Breezy1985]

DQS to gain time in pink in echelon madness

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Quite a dull break, but it obviously won't last anyway. Androni, Bardiani and Vino Fantomo wil get some screen time.

Why can't Bongiorno get selected for the Giro? He always seemed like a welcoming rider.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Sprint stages should be only 50 kilometers long.

 

[FjPavels]

Sprint stages should be only 50 kilometers long.

you will get frustrated with stage 19

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Sprint stages should be only 50 kilometers long.

They build up fatigue for the mountain stages (in theory at least).

 

[LosBrolin]

Ninja of the Giro so far : Haimar Pernsteiner

 

[Danskebjerge]

They build up fatigue for the mountain stages (in theory at least).

Yes, but the element of fatigue is often blurred by many other things. Like Banal's back problems.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Ninja of the Giro so far : Haimar Pernsteiner

According to PCS he only turned pro when he was 26. What was he doing beforehand?
He also seems to be a ninja as far as google is concerned.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

According to PCS he only turned pro when he was 26. What was he doing beforehand?
He also seems to be a ninja as far as google is concerned.

Mountainbiking, iirc. Then he made the top ten out of nowhere in the Österreich Rundfahrt and continued from there.