Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 15: Seregno - Bergamo 195 km

[Netserk]

Comfortably worse. Last year had the Torino stage, for starters. If it doesn't pick up in the final week, this will be the worst GT in modern cycling history and possibly of all time.

Yes, but it's still a bit premature.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Prime Savoldelli could have started this descent from the peloton and caught everyone in the breakaway by the end of it. Not exactly a technical masterclass by anyone involved.

 

[Lequack]

Healy purposly slowed down so McNulty could get to him.

 

[BR2]

I would first try to stop the backloading. If that doesn't work the concept of a GT needs to be reconsidered...

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I‘m getting eye cancer from the descending of the breakaway guys.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Yes, it is. This is even worse than 2012 Tour.

The 2012 Tour was bad, but not as bad as the 2012/22 Giro's IMO. At least in the 2012 Tour there was action on most of the mountain stages, I would say 2016/17 Tours were worse IMO

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Yes, but it's still a bit premature.

I did say upthread that it can still roughly match the 2011 Tour...

 

[titan31]

Okey, where does this years Giro rank with the worst recent editions? Is it worse than 2012/22?

I've been watching cycling since 98 and I can't think of anything worse off the top of my head.

 

[Volderke]

Maybe they should introduce bonus minutes, instead of seconds. That'll give some incentive for some GC riders, no?
I must honestly say I follow this Giro less and less. Remco's abandon was bad, but Hart's crash was the DNF too much.
I feel I haven't missed anything...

 

[houtdffan]

Once Remco left, so did all the racing

I suspect he would have stayed in had he known nobody would have raced at all the second week

 

[Sciatic]

Any chance Caruso will have a go on the technical part of the descent? (Sunday morning optimism )

 

[Netserk]

I would first try to stop the backloading. If that doesn't work the concept of a GT needs to be reconsidered...

The concept of a GT worked wonders in the Tour last year.

 

[Red Rick]

I guess people have forgotten the 2009 and 2012 Tours, as well as the 2012 Giro.

 

[RedheadDane]

Watching this descent...man...Vincenzo I miss you

Too many riders with beautiful wives?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Once Remco left, so did all the racing

I suspect he would have stayed in had he known nobody would have raced at all the second week

There would have been racing if Remco had been ahead.

 

[Red Rick]

Prime Savoldelli could have started this descent from the peloton and caught everyone in the breakaway by the end of it. Not exactly a technical masterclass by anyone involved.

Salvodelli would get dropped like a brick on the climbs by the modern peloton though.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

They don't even bother showing the peloton any more. On this race defining descent. Unbelievable

 

[BR2]

There would have been racing if Remco had been ahead.

I doubt it. They would have accepted Remco is just better.

 

[AlfaLum]

They don't even bother showing the peloton any more. On this race defining descent. Unbelievable

Rightly so. Those GC guys should be ignored for the remainder of the race. Shouldn’t even be allowed on the podium after the final stage.

 

[KOM]

The 2012 Tour was bad, but not as bad as the 2012/22 Giro's IMO. At least in the 2012 Tour there was action on most of the mountain stages, I would say 2016/17 Tours were worse IMO

Despite the 2022 Giro beeing bad it was still alot better than this by quite some margin imo. Its alot different in terms of excitement, if we get the riders that likely will go on the podium in a group together and then sitting up or meme attacking or like we have here the group of so called favorites never getting smaller than a dozen riders by stage 15(!!)

 

[houtdffan]

There would have been racing if Remco had been ahead.

They hardly raced when he was in the race. Blamed it on a headwind or something else

 

[ashhutch1997]

I did say upthread that it can still roughly match the 2011 Tour...

I think you guys make out that the 2011 Tour was worse than it was, the first 2 weeks were bad but since Remco abandoned this Giro has felt so flat. Plus the farce of Crans Montana makes this far worse than the 2011 Tour IMO

 

[titan31]

Maybe they should introduce bonus minutes, instead of seconds. That'll give some incentive for some GC riders, no?
I must honestly say I follow this Giro less and less. Remco's abandon was bad, but Hart's crash was the DNF too much.
I feel I haven't missed anything...

You'd get them racing for the stage but they'd all end in sprints then probably

 

[Red Rick]

Oh no, GC riders aren't making meme attacks when the 2 top teams don't wanna race for no reason

 

[ashhutch1997]

Despite the 2022 Giro beeing bad it was still alot better than this by quite some margin imo. Its alot different in terms of excitement, if we get the riders that likely will go on the podium in a group together and then sitting up or meme attacking or like we have here the group of so called favorites never getting smaller than a dozen riders by stage 15(!!)

Thank God for MVDP