Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

[Mayomaniac]

They should have just put the Gavia in the Bormio stage and announce the easy side Mortirolo as the plan b in case of snowfall/danger of avalanches right away.
People wouldn't get mad if it was just the alternative option.

 

[OlavEH]

You mean west, I guess? To the best of my knowledge none of those roads are fully paved, and the Cismon side isn't doable even as a climb.

West is correct. And as @Mayomaniac points out, it looks mostly like a dirt road. Strange that it is marked similar to paved roads of certain quality both on cyclingcols and cronoescalada (opentopomaps).

 

[Rob5091]

The Giro is the only GT with a built-in disclaimer for weather disruptions. I'd wait until the peloton gets to km 0 before passing comment on stages!

 

[Eshnar]

Giro d'Italia 2025: il Mortirolo inedito è quasi ufficiale

Con l'annuncio dei lavori di adeguamento che costeranno 115000 euro, si può dire che salvo sorprese la nuova Recta Contador sarà sul Gar

www.cicloweb.it

It seems the Recta Contador is on the table again

 

[Netserk]

I guess we won't officially know it so until April?

 

[Eshnar]

I guess we won't officially know it so until April?

yep

 

[Mayomaniac]

Giro d'Italia 2025: il Mortirolo inedito è quasi ufficiale

Con l'annuncio dei lavori di adeguamento che costeranno 115000 euro, si può dire che salvo sorprese la nuova Recta Contador sarà sul Gar

www.cicloweb.it

It seems the Recta Contador is on the table again

Now that the Belgian chubster won't show up anyway they can bring in the super steep stuff.
(I'm halfway joking)

 

[Bavarianrider]

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[ashhutch1997]

Yes, in the last edition.

Image this with Saint-Barthélémy and Saint-Panthaleon or other climbs beforehand, that would be a proper queen stage. Also the Arlaz/ Tsecore combination is very difficult as well.

 

[topcat]

This year I'm doing the Giro. I fancy my chances on stage 7. I probably won't see any of you out there because I'll be very far up the road but I'll wait for all of you at the finish and we can have a coffee and a small danish.

 

[Escarabajo]

The Giro is the only GT with a built-in disclaimer for weather disruptions. I'd wait until the peloton gets to km 0 before passing comment on stages!

Not this year. Low altitude mountains.

 

[pman]

The economics of this sport are complex. Obviously money must on some level explain stages like the Asiago stage. I wish there was a proper third week time trial. As a Roglic fan I am not a fan of the offroad sections but everything being equal, I don't mind the route.

 

[OlavEH]

The economics of this sport are complex. Obviously money must on some level explain stages like the Asiago stage.

That may be. The problem is the other choices they do. Economy doesn't decide what way they climb Monte Grappa. Or on a later stage; which way they go towards Bormio. They could have used Gavia or the recta Contador on Mortirolo. They chose the easiest ascent of Mortirolo instead. Or the sequence of the climbs on the Champoluc stage.

And on the latter stage; I wonder if the sometimes couldn't choose to "save" a stage for a later year. They are almost nearby Aosta in every version of the Giro. The coudn't have said that we want to make this a queen stage, but it doesn't fit in with Finestre-Sestriere this year, so we want to use it next year instead?

 

[jackbh]

That may be. The problem is the other choices they do. Economy doesn't decide what way they climb Monte Grappa. Or on a later stage; which way they go towards Bormio. They could have used Gavia or the recta Contador on Mortirolo. They chose the easiest ascent of Mortirolo instead. Or the sequence of the climbs on the Champoluc stage.

And on the latter stage; I wonder if the sometimes couldn't choose to "save" a stage for a later year. They are almost nearby Aosta in every version of the Giro. The coudn't have said that we want to make this a queen stage, but it doesn't fit in with Finestre-Sestriere this year, so we want to use it next year instead?

Well... economy decides start and end point...

Other factors decide how to connect them.
A. Tour route.
B. Autumn schedule.
C. Best rider in world and contenders.

Due to a backloaded Tour, an easier vuelta and a tough tough worlds - Giro needed to go light...

 

[YavorD]

Well... economy decides start and end point...

Other factors decide how to connect them.
A. Tour route.
B. Autumn schedule.
C. Best rider in world and contenders.

Due to a backloaded Tour, an easier vuelta and a tough tough worlds - Giro needed to go light...

I don't think any of these are real factors.

A. Arguably the heaviest Giro route was in the same year as probably the most backloaded Tour (2011).
B. Doesn't make sense there's 4 months till the World and with an easy Vuelta you can make a harder Giro for a classic Giro-Vuelta-Worlds.
C. They couldn't know who's gonna do the Giro. They could bet on Pogacar not doing it.

 

[SafeBet]

That may be. The problem is the other choices they do. Economy doesn't decide what way they climb Monte Grappa. Or on a later stage; which way they go towards Bormio. They could have used Gavia or the recta Contador on Mortirolo. They chose the easiest ascent of Mortirolo instead.

Although I agree with the general feeling, Recta Contador might still happen.

 

[Netserk]

The economics of this sport are complex. Obviously money must on some level explain stages like the Asiago stage. I wish there was a proper third week time trial. As a Roglic fan I am not a fan of the offroad sections but everything being equal, I don't mind the route.

I think the Giro's biggest problem is that it's an Italian race with Italian organisers. The times don't favour that. The macroeconomic future is not exactly promising either.

 

[jackbh]

I don't think any of these are real factors.

A. Arguably the heaviest Giro route was in the same year as probably the most backloaded Tour (2011).
B. Doesn't make sense there's 4 months till the World and with an easy Vuelta you can make a harder Giro for a classic Giro-Vuelta-Worlds.
C. They couldn't know who's gonna so the Giro. They could bet on Pogacar not doing it.

Both yes and no.
You are right about the 2011 route. But it was the wild west era. After Banesto/US Postal train. Then Sky/Visma train - so a repeat is unlikely.

Well... the sponsors (visma i.e) wants a tour-Worlds double...

At least the Giro tries. I think the forum is too hard on the Giro.

 

[Red Rick]

At least the Giro tries. I think the forum is too hard on the Giro.

The Giro tries what exactly? Apart from trying to giftwrap Evenepoel a pink jersey

 

[jackbh]

The Giro tries what exactly? Apart from trying to giftwrap Evenepoel a pink jersey

Something different - like terms og makikg more accessible for riders and the double. But of course it requires more are trying

Of course I would like see a handfull more harshittera there like Manghen, Gavia, Stelvio. But to save the Giro we need to reduce the Tour..

 

[YavorD]

Both yes and no.
You are right about the 2011 route. But it was the wild west era. After Banesto/US Postal train. Then Sky/Visma train - so a repeat is unlikely.

Well... the sponsors (visma i.e) wants a tour-Worlds double...

At least the Giro tries. I think the forum is too hard on the Giro.

Wait, harder Giro route doesn't stop Van Aert for targeting the Worlds and doesn't impact Vingegaard's chances in the Tour.
You act as if teams try to achieve all the goals with the same rider.
I don't understand the parallel you try to make between the Giro and the Tour when the only (actual) Tour contenders (Pog and Vingegaard) aren't doing the Giro. And you could almost bet on both of them skipping it already in October.
So they are doing an easier Giro so they give Roglic a better chance for the Tour podium or what?

 

[Red Rick]

Wait, harder Giro route doesn't stop Van Aert for targeting the Worlds and doesn't impact Vingegaard's chances in the Tour.
You act as if teams try to achieve all the goals with the same rider.
I don't understand the parallel you try to make between the Giro and the Tour when the only (actual) Tour contenders (Pog and Vingegaard) aren't doing the Giro. And you could almost bet on both of them skipping it already in October.
So they are doing an easier Giro so they give Roglic a better chance for the Tour podium or what?

It's also not like you can somewhat limit the fatigue but still make solid mountain stages. In fact, apart from Finestre, the Giro tends to accumulate more fatigue than action.

 

[Netserk]

I think the 2015 route was in a sense quite easy, but its design induced harder racing, so less brutal terrain resulted in more fatigue than otherwise.

 

[Red Rick]

I think the 2015 route was in a sense quite easy, but its design induced harder racing, so less brutal terrain resulted in more fatigue than otherwise.

Think there were only like 5 HC climbs in that entire Giro. I think Verbania is a bit of an underrated design because it's an obvious break but you still have a climb hard enough to go nuts.




But you have to admit a lot in that Giro came down to the Astana vs Contador dynamic. None of Campitello Matese, Madonna di Campiglio or Cervinia are great climbs.

 

[Netserk]

Yes, they were also very lucky. It was a truly great edition.

But the structure of it and its pacing were spot-on, it not only allowed good racing but also incentivised it. Easy MTFs, so riders had to force things to take time.