Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

[Red Rick]

that race showed we NEED 60km ITTs

Best climber did not win. But the best climber is not necessarily the best cyclist.

Start putting 130km of flat ITTs (2 60+ km ITTS plus a prologue). Gasp, if Pog has a TT like he did at the 2023 worlds, he can start the mountains 4 to5 minutes behind

That race would not have been much different with a 35km ITT.

 

[houtdffan]

This myth that Landa was a better climber needs to stop. In a easy climb like Abetone, Contador destroyed the field, even Aru was saved by Porte. Landa was dropped.
Then Contador dislocated his shoulder and only in Finestre he was dropped (fair and square) by Landa.
- Campitello Mattese. Landa won time because of his free role. Contador was hurt and controlled Aru's attacks. Then when the pace dropped, Landa attacked and got away.
- Madonna di Campiglio was an obvious 2x1 and Contador was more worried about Aru because Landa lost 4 and half minutes against Contador.
- Mortirolo was Contador's magical comeback (1 minute behind). Landa was sucking his wheel until Aprica and then only won 38 seconds.
- Ologno: Contador's revenge. Completely destroyed Astana and Landa never was able to close the gap after his flat.
- Cervignia. The first time Contador was worried about Landa and guess what, Landa couldn't do anything. The opposite happened, Aru won time duento 2x1 strategy.
- Finestre: the only time Landa broke Contador fair and square.
But I want to add one thing. People who saw that Giro know Contador was racing alone against a super Astana. But he was really alone, many times Contador was alone against 4 or even 5 Astana guys. It was ridiculous. Landa would be that good (in the mountains) with zero support (water, tempo, etc) and after dislocating his shoulder? Of course not, Contador ALONE won that Giro. In 4 or 5 stages, Landa won the stage and/or time because Saxobank (or Tinkoff) was awful in supporting Contador in the mountains. Contador would be a double digit winner of GTs if he didn't choose his buddies to be his teammates.

Aru was the bestc limber that race. Not Landa

 

[houtdffan]

That race would not have been much different with a 35km ITT.

Aru may have won had it been a 35 km ITT

 

[Peyroteo94]

Aru was the bestc limber that race. Not Landa

Okay...

 

[Devil's Elbow]

What's up with the 2015 Giro fanfiction? This isn't AO3...

 

[Tim Cahill]

Only Alberto Contador could inspire an outraged several paragraph defence of his Giro win in an unrelated thread 10 years later, they don't make them like him anymore.

Contador did had Igor Anton helping

Was quite a few along with Anton iirc. That stage like Fuente De was a brilliant example of how Contador understood the game of cycling, years of him being a generous and gracious cyclist, letting breaks go, giving away stages coming back around with multiple willing to help following Katusha/Astana's attempted mugging. If Pogacar or Vingegaard ended up in the same situation they would get laughed at.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Only Alberto Contador could inspire an outraged several paragraph defence of his Giro win in an unrelated thread 10 years later, they don't make them like him anymore.



Was quite a few along with Anton iirc. That stage like Fuente De was a brilliant example of how Contador understood the game of cycling, years of him being a generous and gracious cyclist, letting breaks go, giving away stages coming back around with multiple willing to help following Katusha/Astana's attempted mugging. If Pogacar or Vingegaard ended up in the same situation they would get laughed at.

Yeah I could see this coming back to bite Pogacar in the future. You need your friends in cycling.

 

[Onizuka999]

This year it's almost sure that there will be five wild cards so I think the two Italian pro teams and the two from Switzerland will participate. I think we will see Tom Pidcock and Marc Hirschi

 

[Mayomaniac]

This year it's almost sure that there will be five wild cards so I think the two Italian pro teams and the two from Switzerland will participate. I think we will see Tom Pidcock and Marc Hirschi

Italian media are reporting the same.

 

[pastronef]

Saudi Arabian PIF investment fund close to sponsoring the Giro d'Italia maglia rosa

US$930 billion Saudi sovereign wealth fund also linked to stalled One Cycling project

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Onizuka999]

Saudi Arabian fund PIF will be the new main sponsor of the Pink Jersey. On the jersey you will find two writings: One Cycling and SURJ Sports Investment. Next week RCS will announce the wildcards and it seems they will be four.

 

[pastronef]

Saudi Arabian fund PIF will be the new main sponsor of the Pink Jersey. On the jersey you will find two writings: One Cycling and SURJ Sports Investment. Next week RCS will announce the wildcards and it seems they will be four.

WOW
I think RCS knows the Saudi money is huge and they'll be the first to sell out to them

 

[Onizuka999]

Yes absolutely

 

[pastronef]

Yes absolutely

and if they do sell, One Cycling chances will get suddenly better (and as posted in the One Cycling thread, Flanders Classics owner just waits to get the Saudi money too)

 

[Mayomaniac]

WOW
I think RCS knows the Saudi money is huge and they'll be the first to sell out to them

How long until the Giro get's dakared and moved to Arabia? Ok, the can do that with the first half of the race if they include one of those 4-5 harder than the Zoncolan climbs that Saudi Arabia has every year.

 

[pastronef]

How long until the Giro get's dakared and moved to Arabia? Ok, the can do that with the first half of the race if they include one of those 4-5 harder than the Zoncolan climbs that Saudi Arabia has every year.

not moved, but a start from there will come sooner than we might think. when I heard the Saudis were ready to splash big money the first word that came to my mind was -RCS-

 

[Mayomaniac]

not moved, but a start from there will come sooner than we might think. when I heard the Saudis were ready to splash big money the first word that came to my mind was -RCS-

There were rumours about a Giro start there already for this year, so it's gonna happen in the next few years...

 

[ashhutch1997]

All sport is going there, I wouldn't be suprised if they tried to do a grand Tour there in the future. At the end of the day if they are offering huge money I don't blame the organisers.

 

[E_F_]

A season finale winter grand tour in Saudi Arabia... Except it's 35 stages or something...

 

[Mayomaniac]

A season finale winter grand tour in Saudi Arabia... Except it's 35 stages or something...

I mean, they do have stuff like this that is paved and on nice roads...

 

[pastronef]

goat tracks Vuelta style

 

[Onizuka999]

I think we will see a departure from Saudi Arabia in the next years but I imagine that it won't be in may because the climate is too warm. Flanders Classics are in total agreement with the One Cycling Project and we will see the reaction of ASO. I bet in the next years the Tourcentrism will be in real danger...

 

[pastronef]

I think we will see a departure from Saudi Arabia in the next years but I imagine that it won't be in may because the climate is too warm. Flanders Classics are in total agreement with the One Cycling Project and we will see the reaction of ASO. I bet in the next years the Tourcentrism will be in real danger...

the most followed races outside our little niche of cycling fans are Roubaix and the TDF. the ASO-centrism will go on, thank god