Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

[zlev11]

yeah it's just...the route would be sooo much better with just a few changes. the Bormio stage needs to just be...completely different. if that was Mortirolo-Aprica instead that would make me love this route.

 

[YavorD]

yeah it's just...the route would be sooo much better with just a few changes. the Bormio stage needs to just be...completely different. if that was Mortirolo-Aprica instead that would make me love this route.

Or, as @Red Rick stated, use the baby Giro 2022 stage as example.
Go through Tonale-Aprica-Guspessa and keep the finish in Bormio

 

[OlavEH]

There are two good aspects about this route. That is the Finestre stage and the sterrato stage to Siena. Otherwise it's mostly missed opportunities. It's pretty amazing that when they do San Pellegrino in Alpe, Monte Grappa, Bormio finish with a start nearby Trento and a Champoluc finish, they don't manage to create something better than this. One could also add a Nova Gorica finish. It is almost like they aim to make it bad.......

 

[Mayomaniac]

Other than stage 14, I think the pacing and overall structure is perfectly fine. The first half of the race only has a single boring sprint stage.

It's not the pacing, it's the stages and what side of the climbs they (don't) use. A hard side of Grappa, 2012 Mortirolo or this one just as a bad weather alternative to Gavia and maybe an uphill finish on that Murito above Novi Gorica that the Tour of Slovenia has used before and this would be sooo much better. They banked on a route that would attract Evenepoel, after he has already robbed them multiple times. Vegni and his handler Cairo are spine- and shameless.

 

[Rou]

If they remove the Finestre just add the Zoncolan and make it a battle royale.

 

[Netserk]

It's not the pacing, it's the stages and what side of the climbs they (don't) use. A hard side of Grappa, 2012 Mortirolo or this one just as a bad weather alternative to Gavia and maybe an uphill finish on that Murito above Novi Gorica that the Tour of Slovenia has used before and this would be sooo much better. They banked on a route that would attract Evenepoel, after he has already robbed them multiple times. Vegni and his handler Cairo are spine- and shameless.

Yes, that I agree with. But I don't think the route being back-loaded is a good criticism.

 

[YavorD]

If they remove the Finestre just add the Zoncolan and make it a battle royale.

How do you propose they do that?

 

[Red Rick]

Yes, that I agree with. But I don't think the route being back-loaded is a good criticism.

I think it's absolutely a valid criticism, considering the main road stages for action are stage 16, 19 and 20, and there's basically only a gravel stage and a short punchy MTF before.

There's been multiple Giro routes that had big mountain stages far earlier that were torn to shreds by this forum, and the only reason it appears to escape a lot of criticism because in addition to good mountain stages, it also lacks MTFs, so basically they get some sort of credit for bad mountain stages cause they don't have MTFs.

 

[OlavEH]

It's not the pacing, it's the stages and what side of the climbs they (don't) use. A hard side of Grappa, 2012 Mortirolo or this one just as a bad weather alternative to Gavia and maybe an uphill finish on that Murito above Novi Gorica that the Tour of Slovenia has used before and this would be sooo much better. They banked on a route that would attract Evenepoel, after he has already robbed them multiple times. Vegni and his handler Cairo are spine- and shameless.

You could also add the pacing of climbs on the Champoluc stage including putting this the day before Finestre. A Champoluc finish could have been a queen stage by using a sequence of Saint Barthelemy - Panthaleo - Arlaz - Tzecore - Joux, but it is far from that. Instead of using it in such a useless fashion, they should rather have saved this for a later version and made it a queen stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Another pet peeve of mine is the conflation of "not many sprinter stages" with good routes. This includes ignoring the Giro will get the 2 most durable sprinters on the start list, and that it leads to just transitional breakaway stages.

 

[Rou]

How do you propose they do that?

I'm just voicing my disappointment with the Giro route as a whole. I know it can't be done but the organisers year after year design these stages with high chance for cancellation.
The whole race will be asleep for 15 days and then bam - we cancel and remove all the hard parts in the end.

 

[Tim Cahill]

That Redbull km gimmick has Roglic crash written all over it.

 

[E_F_]

I think it makes a lot of sense to critique a route for ensuring that all GC action will be limited to the penultimate stage.

Either make a cool, easy route and ditch the Finestre stage (or make it easier/less nailed on selective) - or make a super hard route with multiple stages as tough as the Finestre stage.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

That Redbull km gimmick has Roglic crash written all over it.

They‘ve mostly put them uphill, it‘s kind of a conflict of interest as has been said before.

 

[zlev11]

I think it makes a lot of sense to critique a route for ensuring that all GC action will be limited to the penultimate stage.

Either make a cool, easy route and ditch the Finestre stage (or make it easier/less nailed on selective) - or make a super hard route with multiple stages as tough as the Finestre stage.

yeah i dont understand why they constantly put the hardest stage as the last mountain stage. id like to see them put the hardest stage on the 2nd weekend for a change. it would open up the race and possibly make the lesser stages more exciting than they might've been.

 

[Netserk]

Giro d'Italia 2025: il Mortirolo inedito è quasi ufficiale

Con l'annuncio dei lavori di adeguamento che costeranno 115000 euro, si può dire che salvo sorprese la nuova Recta Contador sarà sul Gar

www.cicloweb.it

It seems the Recta Contador is on the table again

@Eshnar have you heard anything since?

 

[Red Rick]

Seriously why do they even need to do works on Recta Contador? Like IIRC it's already paved how bad could it be to climb like 2-3km on bad asphalt when you're going 10 kph anyways

 

[Mayomaniac]

Seriously why do they even need to do works on Recta Contador? Like IIRC it's already paved how bad could it be to climb like 2-3km on bad asphalt when you're going 10 kph anyways

It's a narrow goattrack.

Mfw they actually use it for a Baby Giro MTT...

 

[Red Rick]

It's a narrow goattrack.

Mfw they actually use it for a Baby Giro MTT...

What do they wanna do lol. Widen it? Just barrier it off for fans and job done?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Both RC and Gavia would be a huge improvement, but if you go RC I think you should also take the final Motte climb out and put the emphasis on Mortirolo. Don't care that much for Tzecore, though the original design was better.

Overall I'm still baffled by how tolerated the route is despite how backloaded it is and how much deliberate sabotage of good racing there is. Bormio and Asiago are inexcusable to me. And then you finally bring on Pradaccio but it's a million km from the finish too.

Before stage 16, we're lucky to get 3km of road stage action outside of the Strade Bianche stage.

19 and 20 in opposite order would potentially be really good, because Finestre is going to create gaps regardless.

Re Pradaccio, though, that stage reminds me heavily of this:

As for stage 17...

 

[OlavEH]

19 and 20 in opposite order would potentially be really good, because Finestre is going to create gaps regardless.

Agreed, but they should regardless changed the sequence of climbs on the Champoluc stage. They should have done Saint-Panthaleon-Arlaz-Zuccore-Joux and than headed straight for Champoluc.

 

[houtdffan]

Finestre may be out.

It snowed recently

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Finestre may be out.

It snowed recently

Will be impossible to clear in more than one month…

 

[Netserk]

Finestre may be out.

It snowed recently

No prob, we just need to call up Dennis of Rohan!