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Netserk

Netserk

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Malathion said:
Will you do a preview this year?
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No. @Eshnar did his last one in 2023. @Devil's Elbow did it last year, and he has said he will do it again this year. But RCS has been very slow with the publication of the official information, so it's delayed.
Devil's Elbow said:
13 days before the race starts and we still don't have the roadbook, climb profiles or finish maps (and it's not remotely likely we will be getting them today or tomorrow either). Unlike last year I've started working on the stage host introductions in advance which should help, but it's still going to be a hectic week and a bit to get the stage by stage analysis done in time...
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If stage 1 is ready, I think it'd be good to post that thread before the full analysis.
 
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ashhutch1997

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Red Rick said:
Asiago stage having an intermediate sprint in Possagno, where Bocca di Forca starts - pisses me off an unreasonable amount.

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Bocca di Forca - Grappa - Bassano -Foza - is an absolute nobrainer here.
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Would still have to go up the 'meh' side of Grappa no? I'm pretty sure they are doing the route they are doing due to financial reasons, I could be wrong..
 
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ashhutch1997 said:
Would still have to go up the 'meh' side of Grappa no? I'm pretty sure they are doing the route they are doing due to financial reasons, I could be wrong..
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Hm... There are plenty of very non-meh sides of Grappa if you can live with narrow roads.
 
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Red Rick

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ashhutch1997 said:
Would still have to go up the 'meh' side of Grappa no? I'm pretty sure they are doing the route they are doing due to financial reasons, I could be wrong..
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No, Bocca di Forca joins this side of Grappa. The top of BdF is very close to the first peak of the Grappa profile below, which would can used as the descent of BdF. It joins the classical side just under the top.


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OlavEH

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Mayomaniac said:
The stage with San Pellegrino in Alpe mid stage could be harder than expected because it comes right after the ITT.
IMO the big problems are stage 14 and stage 15 being so bad and the meh Aosta stage. The Grappa stage having the intermediate stage in Possagno, where the hardest side of Bocca di Forca starts, is just taking the piss, at that point they are trolling the hardcore fans.
RCS giving the Bormio stage over the Midtirolo only 3 out of 5 starts tells you it is easy, but it could at least result in more gc action the previous day, someone could attack from further out.
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They didn't have to change much to have made this version one of the best in later years.

Abetone as stage finish instead of Castelnovo ne'Monti (and some more climbs earlier at that stage).
Bormio stage could have had same start and finish (or to Bormio 2000), just a different route.
Champoluc and Finestre stage should have changed days. And different route to Champoluc.

One different stage finish, one change of days and perhaps a very small change of stage finish. Otherwise just change the route between start and finish. And this would have been at least a 8/10 route.
 
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OlavEH said:
They didn't have to change much to have made this version one of the best in later years.

Abetone as stage finish instead of Castelnovo ne'Monti (and some more climbs earlier at that stage).
Bormio stage could have had same start and finish (or to Bormio 2000), just a different route.
Champoluc and Finestre stage should have changed days. And different route to Champoluc.

One different stage finish, one change of days and perhaps a very small change of stage finish. Otherwise just change the route between start and finish. And this would have been at least a 8/10 route.
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Giuspessa instead of wrong side Mortirolo and Bocca di Forca-Grappa-Foza-Asiago and you have 3 queen stage worthy stages and you can probably go slightly easier in Aosta or San Valentino without changing any of the start or finish locations.

It is kinda hard to make better stages in the first 2 weeks if you keep the finish locations the same tbh. Maybe Castelraimondo can get Monto San Vicino at cresting at like 15km to go but that's about it.
 
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OlavEH

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Red Rick said:
Giuspessa instead of wrong side Mortirolo and Bocca di Forca-Grappa-Foza-Asiago and you have 3 queen stage worthy stages and you can probably go slightly easier in Aosta or San Valentino without changing any of the start or finish locations.

It is kinda hard to make better stages in the first 2 weeks if you keep the finish locations the same tbh. Maybe Castelraimondo can get Monto San Vicino at cresting at like 15km to go but that's about it.
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If they did what I said, they could even have dropped Monte Grappa (or the San Valentino stage) and it would still have been a great route. It would have been a bit backloaded, but you would still have:

- A sterrato stage.
- San Pellegrino in Alpe - Abetone, basically the little brother of Mortirolo - Aprica.
- A Bormio 2000 stage with Carlo Magno, Tonale and Gavia.
- Finestre - Sestriere
- A Champoluc stage finish with at least Saint-Panthaelon first, then the combo of Arlaz, Tzecore and Joux.
 
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Tim Cahill

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I love how Tudor's announcement for some reason also includes a passive-aggressive comment bit about Hirschi at the end of it. https://www.tudorprocycling.com/post/heading-to-our-second-giro

Notably absent from the final lineup is Marc Hirschi, who was originally slated to participate. Both he and the team had high hopes for his Giro debut, but recent performances at the Ardennes Classics showed he isn’t currently in shape to contend for the Maglia Rosa in the opening week. “I’m really disappointed not to be racing the Giro,” Hirschi said. “It’s a beautiful race, one that makes me dream and that I was excited to debut in. It’s frustrating not to be at the level we had planned for.”
 
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OlavEH

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Tim Cahill said:
Notably absent from the final lineup is Marc Hirschi, who was originally slated to participate. Both he and the team had high hopes for his Giro debut, but recent performances at the Ardennes Classics showed he isn’t currently in shape to contend for the Maglia Rosa in the opening week. “I’m really disappointed not to be racing the Giro,” Hirschi said. “It’s a beautiful race, one that makes me dream and that I was excited to debut in. It’s frustrating not to be at the level we had planned for.”
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Hirschi is yet again disappointing. He has in no way lived up to the promise from the great 2020 season. Last year was good, but this year he is back on a lower level.....
 
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OlavEH said:
Hirschi is yet again disappointing. He has in no way lived up to the promise from the great 2020 season. Last year was good, but this year he is back on a lower level.....
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I think lockdown Marc Hurshi is the definition of a 'one season wonder'. Literally cyclings equivalent to Michu.
 
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Devil's Elbow

Devil's Elbow

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ashhutch1997 said:
I think lockdown Marc Hurshi is the definition of a 'one season wonder'. Literally cyclings equivalent to Michu.
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Hirschi had shown signs of being a future star in 2019 already, still think his subsequent lack of doing anything in the big races is stranger than his peak in 2020. He was also much earlier in his career at the time than Michu when he had his purple patch.
 
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Hirschi also seemed to be either sick or injured at least in 2021 & 2022 once he was about to hit shape.
While he didn't match his 2020 season any longer at least from fall 2023 onwards Hirschi had a decent level again winning the Tour de Luxembourg and various Italian fall classics. It's indeed surprising he's that bad again at Tudor.
 
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Mayomaniac said:
With Storer's shape and recent win Rcs won't care that much about Hirschi not being there.
Ciccone thinks Roglic will win, but according to him Storer with his TotA legs is stronger than all of them uphill.
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Would be surprised if Storer is able to hold that level for another 3.5 weeks, but he should try to capitalise on this form as quickly as possible.
 
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Cycling111

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The Tour of the Alps is often misleading.
Juanpe won last year and had a terrible Giro.
Several of those who performed well in the Alps also finished DNF at the Giro.
 
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