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Giro d'Italia Stage 16: San Vigilio di Marebbe - Kronplatz (ITT) 12.9km

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Who will win the Kronplatz TT?

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Zoncolan said:
Basso will do better than Cuddles.
Cuddles climbs out of the saddle a lot more, and on the gravel road it can make your rear wheel skid, especially if it rains (remember Contador two years ago).

but Evans is a mtnbiker - if anyone knows how to climb on gravel its evans imo
 
What the hell is with those team names? Ceramica Panaria? Alessio-Bianchi? What is this, 2004?

By the way, Sella was 22" FASTER than Pellizotti at the intermediate. The times of Sella, Simoni, Contador and Riccò are all accurate, but are all MINUS those numbers - Pellizotti was only 5th fastest at the Passo Furcia.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
What the hell is with those team names? Ceramica Panaria? Alessio-Bianchi? What is this, 2004?

By the way, Sella was 22" FASTER than Pellizotti at the intermediate. The times of Sella, Simoni, Contador and Riccò are all accurate, but are all MINUS those numbers - Pellizotti was only 5th fastest at the Passo Furcia.

Sella 20'36"
Contador 20'48"
Ricco 20'51"
Simoni 20'52"
Pellizotti 20'58"

Like that?

Edit: ty Sprtsch
 
issoisso said:
It's going to be so very interesting to compare the best times with the 2008 times.

Could be tricky though - that was the day before a rest day, this is the day after. I suppose that means that the times today should, all other things being equal, be faster than those of 2008. Not sure that will happen though...
 
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Zoncolan said:
Basso will do better than Cuddles.
Cuddles climbs out of the saddle a lot more, and on the gravel road it can make your rear wheel skid, especially if it rains (remember Contador two years ago).

but Evans is a mtnbiker - if anyone knows how to climb on gravel its evans imobut Evans is a mtnbiker - if anyone knows how to climb on gravel its evans imo

Ohhh and climbing on gravel is some kind of Rocket science ?! Like Zoncolan said main problem with Cuddles eventually will be his out of the saddle style at 20+% gravel section of the climb beacuse rear wheel will lose traction and possible start to skid
 
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On comparing the times between 2008 and now, it should be certainly a good indicator, but we must take into account:
- 2008 stage occurred after 2 mountains stages, no rest day before.
- This year gravel is more a synthetic asphalt than real gravel; on the contrary, 2008's roads were pure gravel. The raod is therefore less slippy.
- This year giro has been certainly more difficult up to now
- Some cyclists may have different approach (eg Simoni performed 4mins higher than 2008, but he's clearly more on a take it easy mood this year).
 
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gabdexa said:
On comparing the times between 2008 and now, it should be certainly a good indicator, but we must take into account:
- 2008 stage occurred after 2 mountains stages, no rest day before.
- This year gravel is more a synthetic asphalt than real gravel; on the contrary, 2008's roads were pure gravel. The raod is therefore less slippy.
- This year giro has been certainly more difficult up to now
- Some cyclists may have different approach (eg Simoni performed 4mins higher than 2008, but he's clearly more on a take it easy mood this year).

Still, I'm quite certain this year's times will be noticeably slower.
 
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Zen Master said:
Ohhh and climbing on gravel is some kind of Rocket science ?! Like Zoncolan said main problem with Cuddles eventually will be his out of the saddle style at 20+% gravel section of the climb beacuse rear wheel will lose traction and possible start to skid

If it's not rocket science, then Evans will know how to ride on gravel, particularly seeing as he raced XC. He targetted stage 7 because he thought it would suit his abilities. They've all reconned the course. I don't expect the surface to cause problems for him more than guys who ride in the saddle.

[edit] Although stage 7 didn't go to 20%
 
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issoisso said:
Still, I'm quite certain this year's times will be noticeably slower.

Yeah, I think that's a safe bet. From the CN ticker:
We won't have a repeat of the top five finishers from 2008 here today, that's for sure. Let's take a look at them:

1 Franco Pellizotti – currently suspended and awaiting a hearing on doping charges under the biological passport programme
2 Emanuele Sella – currently serving a two-year suspension for EPO-CERA
3 Gilberto Simoni – riding the race for Lampre, currently 92nd, 2:02.23 down
4 Alberto Contador – not riding the race this year
5 Riccardo Riccò – not invited
 
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Jamsque said:
Yeah, I think that's a safe bet. From the CN ticker:

I don't think that matters. We have Evans, Sastre and Basso here, which we didn't have in 2008.

Wanna bet the same riders will already be quite slower than in 2008?

Matt Lloyd's already gone a full minute slower than he went in 2008, despite by his own admission being ill back then.
 
issoisso said:
I don't think that matters. We have Evans, Sastre and Basso here, which we didn't have in 2008.

Wanna bet the same riders will already be quite slower than in 2008?

Matt Lloyd's already gone a full minute slower than he went in 2008, despite by his own admission being ill back then.

I think the wide base of the time changes - almost everyone who can be compared is going significantly slower - suggests there are other factors than the favoured doping issue going on here. I'm not sure it's tenable to imagine everyone was doped in 2008, and no one is doped in 2010.