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Yeah ...Aru... FFS..... Guess he got free pass today... If he does that again tomorrow, this race is f**ked...
 
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58teeth said:
DId you see that celebration? Crazier than Menchov in the TT a few years ago! I'd imagine he could have just kept riding right up the Matterhorn if he hadn't stopped.

Yeah there was a lot of energy left, no hiding it either behind a facade of fatigue.
 
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S2Sturges said:
Yeah ...Aru... FFS..... Guess he got free pass today... If he does that again tomorrow, this race is f**ked...
Nah, Contador was literally doing a Sunday ride. Now that Aru is second again, he won't get away so easily.
 
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bobbins said:
Heysjedal is ridiculous. How can anyone take his performances seriously???

Who is taking his performance seriously? I'm pretty sure you'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who thinks he's clean.
That said, I'm enjoying the show. Nice to see a Canadian wear out Contador and finally drop him like a rock today. I was hoping he'd take the stage after all the work he did, but Aru found another 'gear' at the end.
 
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the delgados said:
bobbins said:
Heysjedal is ridiculous. How can anyone take his performances seriously???

Who is taking his performance seriously? I'm pretty sure you'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who thinks he's clean.
That said, I'm enjoying the show. Nice to see a Canadian wear out Contador and finally drop him like a rock today. I was hoping he'd take the stage after all the work he did, but Aru found another 'gear' at the end.

I'd love to know what happened to Trofimov the linebacker. Blew up big time - a bad bag or something. All of Astana were ridiculous - did euros pass hands so the 10 positive tests came back negative? The race passed through Imola, so I would suppose that the good Dr. Ferrari had some good medicine hidden in the top tube of the domestique.
 
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While Hesjedal is unlikely to be clean in this kind of peloton, I don't find anything particularly suspicious about his performance. Naturally resilient riders getting better compared to the rest of the field in the third week of a GT because said GT was finally the test of endurance and recovery it was always supposed to be.

No, his performance followed a perfectly logical curve. Unlike Aru's (and Astana's in general).
 
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hrotha said:
While Hesjedal is unlikely to be clean in this kind of peloton, I don't find anything particularly suspicious about his performance. Naturally resilient riders getting better compared to the rest of the field in the third week of a GT because said GT was finally the test of endurance and recovery it was always supposed to be.

No, his performance followed a perfectly logical curve. Unlike Aru's (and Astana's in general).

oh, thanks Hrotha.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.
 
May 2, 2009
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The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

And that's a wrap, folks.
Glad you could join us for the 2015 Giro. See you next year!
 
Jul 3, 2014
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the delgados said:
The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

And that's a wrap, folks.
Glad you could join us for the 2015 Giro. See you next year!


That's why the clean teams cant compete ...
 
Jul 3, 2014
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The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

Porte - never caught or implicated ...
 
Apr 3, 2009
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TheSpud said:
the delgados said:
The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

And that's a wrap, folks.
Glad you could join us for the 2015 Giro. See you next year!


That's why the clean teams cant compete ...

Which ones are those?
 
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3rd fastest Giro in history!!!! Cleans.........;)

Hesjedal up there on MTFs and finishing so strong in 3rd week. Not clean.
 
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red_flanders said:
TheSpud said:
the delgados said:
The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

And that's a wrap, folks.
Glad you could join us for the 2015 Giro. See you next year!


That's why the clean teams cant compete ...

Which ones are those?
There are no 'clean teams', but it should be noted that Team Giant-Albasini was 11:29:36 behind Astana in the teams competition.
That's a long way back considering this is a WT team.

Top 3 riders:
LUDVIGSSON Tobias - 4:02:19
GESCHKE Simon - 4:16:52
HAGA Chad - 4:34:18
Rest of team:
FAIRLY Caleb - 5:27:03
MEZGEC Luka - 5:34:36
ARNDT Nikias - 5:53:20
STAMSNIJDER Tom - 6:00:08
JI Cheng - 6:09:33
DE BACKER Bert - 6:10:15
 
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TheSpud said:
The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

Porte - never caught or implicated ...

Aru - never caught or impolicated ...
 
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the sceptic said:
TheSpud said:
The Hitch said:
Winner - Alberto Contador - caught doping 2010. Implicated Operation Puerto
Mountains jersey - Gio Visconti- caught working with Ferrari 2013. Suspended 3 months
Points jersey - Nizzolo
White jersey- Fabio Aru- doping hero worshiper on Vino's team
Team comp - Astana- found to be mass team doping last year and in other years in their history.

Porte - never caught or implicated ...

Aru - never caught or impolicated ...
Read something on a Dutch site today from a guy who said that he heard(via via), that Aru had a dodgy test in an Italian stage race in 2010. And that several other riders knew about this. Pretty much no source or reference given though.
 
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Benotti69 said:
3rd fastest Giro in history!!!! Cleans.........;)

Hesjedal up there on MTFs and finishing so strong in 3rd week. Not clean.

This was definitely a step forward in the New Cleans Era™ of cycling.
 
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the new data on micro-epo dosing being effective and pretty much undetectable is just another advancement in the "arms race" on use and detection. Probably should just make everything legal for racers over 21 years of age. Watching the Astana riders ride as hard as they did at the end of the Giro, essentially coming from nowhere, is completely indicative of doping and Contador isn't going to say a word as he is probably just as involved, as he should be, he's still probably one of the best grand tour riders of all time, effortlessly so. Btw, cycling is the perfect place for such doping, it's a braindead sport, you essentially need to have a strong motor, feed yourself properly, not screw up too much on descents and you get a.....Chris Froome, compared to x country skiing or swimming where technique actually matters, one of the dirty secrets of pro cycling is that many of the riders are terrible bike handlers (Froome, Andy Schleck, etc) yet completely successful because you simply have to ride a lot, that's why you get fondos and all these other "stay on your bike until you drop" events that almost anyone can do. That being said, I really love the helicopter shots of a pro peloton going across/down a mountain pass