Hincapie's book

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Still trying to piece this all together, but I think I'm stitching it well. Someone please correct me if I'm missing something.

I did not realize George and his brother Rich purchased a bankrupt & closed Inn that was once called The Bastide a couple years ago. La Bastide took a real hit from the same Great Recession that kept Pla d'Adat from being a reality in the first place. It's now been turned into Hotel Domestique (nope, didn't make that up!), which actually opened I believe late last summer. It's north of Greenville, SC, near the Blue Ridge Mountains. Here's a review in Forbes. Make sure you read the comment section, where one person was more than a little unhappy with the whole idea.

Just one look at the place and it's prices (starting at $295 a night), coupling with Pla d'Adat, and this fancy meeting at the Core Club in NYC, it's quite clear to me that George is looking to hobnob with and cater to the 1% type. I just wonder if there are enough of them, who are cyclists, to buy into the whole idea of spending a vacation with wad of cash to go to an out of the way hotel, or own an out of the way chalet home in northern South Carolina? This entire concept of a cycling based hotel and resort I like, but it seems born out of the late 90's when the economy was doing much better, with a fairly healthy middle to upper middle class, and cycling was starting a boom in this country and people were completely blind to the dirty secret that athletes like Hincapie were drugged up dishonest cheaters.

 
Hincapie is also doing gran fondos in Colombia. The course in Medellin run a few months ago was brutal, even by Colombian standards. And the fees are about the same as any gran fondo in the states.

Talk about price gouging, and in a developing nation to boot. Then again, there is money there. The sport has always been popular, but people are spending money they never did before on equipment.

I have absolutely no respect for this guy and his business ethics-greedy to the core.
 
Someone should price gouge him for a change. Open a backpackers near some kickar$e climbing territory with a decent bikeshop added onto the side. Have a dorm room and bikewash daily special, open kitchen and plenty of space to socialise - screw the elitist overtones of somewhere like this. :mad:

Surfers have done it for donkey's years, why shouldn't cycling get a cut?
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Still trying to piece this all together, but I think I'm stitching it well. Someone please correct me if I'm missing something.

I did not realize George and his brother Rich purchased a bankrupt & closed Inn that was once called The Bastide a couple years ago. La Bastide took a real hit from the same Great Recession that kept Pla d'Adat from being a reality in the first place. It's now been turned into Hotel Domestique (nope, didn't make that up!), which actually opened I believe late last summer. It's north of Greenville, SC, near the Blue Ridge Mountains. Here's a review in Forbes. Make sure you read the comment section, where one person was more than a little unhappy with the whole idea.

Just one look at the place and it's prices (starting at $295 a night), coupling with Pla d'Adat, and this fancy meeting at the Core Club in NYC, it's quite clear to me that George is looking to hobnob with and cater to the 1% type. I just wonder if there are enough of them, who are cyclists, to buy into the whole idea of spending a vacation with wad of cash to go to an out of the way hotel, or own an out of the way chalet home in northern South Carolina? This entire concept of a cycling based hotel and resort I like, but it seems born out of the late 90's when the economy was doing much better, with a fairly healthy middle to upper middle class, and cycling was starting a boom in this country and people were completely blind to the dirty secret that athletes like Hincapie were drugged up dishonest cheaters.


It's more than a little dis-tasteful.

However, I'm guessing the place is a success. I was on the group ride near where I live last Saturday. The group was at least 80 dudes, every single one of them was on an expensive bike and most had some deep carbon go-fast wheels. There was probably $500k of equipment rolling around blowing stop signs right and left.

A boutique hotel run in a picturesque part of the country with fantastic riding... yeah, he'll do just fine.
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
I just wonder if there are enough of them, who are cyclists, to buy into the whole idea of spending a vacation with wad of cash to go to an out of the way hotel, or own an out of the way chalet home in northern South Carolina?
IMO, yes. Plenty. Think about it this way, he's got Thom still selling cycling sponsorships to his bazillionairre pals. Cycling still seems to be on the trajectory of replacing golf as a middle-aged sport.

He's got the right business plan.
 
Benotti69 said:
What do you reckon Hincapie tells the youngsters on his team? Dont dope like me and get rich. Ride clean and dont have a career!
"Now kids, there's a time and place for doing drugs and the Continental-level races is not the time to do them. The time and place to do them is elite International under-23 events..... Did I ever tell you one of my biggest fans runs the cycling federation? He's a great guy and has done so much for the sport like hooking his teams up with good doping doctors..... Yeah.. Good times.."
 
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some previous dopers you would be inclined to have a beer with and enjoy it, not with this phony turd.
Will not be buying this one or even reading it if it were free.
 
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GH on WNYC radio today, saying nothing of interest.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/cyclist-george-hincapie-biking-doping-and-lance-armstrong/

He's also doing a $500 a plate dinner to raise funds for a kids cycling program, however, being a registered drug offender, he shouldn't be allowed with 15 feet of kids other than his own if there's a bike nearby.


Drinks, Dinner and a Talk with George
Thursday, June 19, 2014
6:00 – 9:00 P.M.

Barbone Restaurant
186 Avenue B
New York City
Individual tickets are $500. All proceeds will fund Star Track's cycling programs for children. RSVPs will be accepted in the order that they are received — last year’s event did sell out.

The ticket price includes a ride with George the following morning in Central Park, weather permitting.

To RSVP, please reply to this message at startracknyc@gmail.com and indicate how many will be in your party. Then, send your check to confirm attendance. Please make your check out to BIKE NY and send to:

Star Track
℅ Deirdre Bader
 
His book was released yesterday. I took a look on Amazon. Some of the user reviews are all glorified ga-ga, by people who have never written a review on Amazon before! Maybe George had family & friends do their thing.
 
Bosco10 said:
His book was released yesterday. I took a look on Amazon. Some of the user reviews are all glorified ga-ga, by people who have never written a review on Amazon before! Maybe George had family & friends do their thing.
Amazon is notorious for that and for writers plugging their own books. Stephen King is a blurb industry on his own. Either he is the fastest reader in the Western World or he is doing favours to others. Same with his constant movie quotes.
 
eporesis said:
He's also doing a $500 a plate dinner to raise funds for a kids cycling program, however, being a registered drug offender, he shouldn't be allowed with 15 feet of kids other than his own if there's a bike nearby.
Is George smart enough to do the non-profit "proceeds" trick? The one where the for-profit appearance fee is taken off the top of the non-profit event proceeds.

Maybe. Maybe not.
 
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robow7 said:
some previous dopers you would be inclined to have a beer with and enjoy it, not with this phony turd.
Will not be buying this one or even reading it if it were free.
maybe you would, if he brought his wife and offered a menage a trois. she is gorgeous, but just check the blue eyeshadow at the door hon
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Is George smart enough to do the non-profit "proceeds" trick? The one where the for-profit appearance fee is taken off the top of the non-profit event proceeds.

Maybe. Maybe not.
I think that's a question of how smart Rich is, and he seems pretty smart.
Whether GH is doing this particular event out of the goodness of his heart (likely IMO) or profiting from it (likely again) is mooted by the the fact he should in no way present himself as a role model to these 10 year old kids. He's obviously not smart enough or ethical enough to realize that.

Edit, I removed the picture of him with star track kids. It's on their parents for sticking them next to GH. They do look appropriately uncomfortable.
 
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The party at the Core club gets better and better. The MC? Doping apologist John Eustice. Lance might also attend.

Sounds like a great party. :rolleyes:
 
eporesis said:
Whether GH is doing this particular event out of the goodness of his heart (likely IMO) or profiting from it (likely again) is mooted by the the fact he should .
Let's not kid ourselves here, GH does all of this for one thing/reason and one thing only: $$$$, otherwise he wouldn't do any of it( book release,cycling camp/etc/etc).

He and Wonderboy are perfect for one another. Neither do anything "out of the goodness of their hearts", there's ALWAYS an agenda, or something they can gain from it, typical of most celebrities.
 
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Regardless of his intentions, he shouldn't put himself in front of minors as mentor, benefactor, or role model. You forfeit that when you cheat, lie about it, lie about repeatedly, and do nothing to correct the problems beyond the farcical assertion that (paraphrasing) 'I would have done better if there weren't so much drug use.' The U23 team is bad enough, but they're adults. I really want to post these pictures of GH glad-handing 10 year olds, however, it's their parents and the organizers who should be shamed.
 
eporesis said:
Regardless of his intentions, he shouldn't put himself in front of minors as mentor, benefactor, or role model. You forfeit that when you cheat, lie about it, lie about repeatedly, and do nothing to correct the problems beyond the farcical assertion that (paraphrasing) 'I would have done better if there weren't so much drug use.' The U23 team is bad enough, but they're adults. I really want to post these pictures of GH glad-handing 10 year olds, however, it's their parents and the organizers who should be shamed.
Oh, I totally agree with you. I was just pointing out that neither of those 2 will do anything, unless they themselves have something to gain from it.

That's probably why GH still chooses to associate w/Wonderboy, he's learning the art of being a fraud/liar/cheater/doper from the man himself. 2 peas in a pod.
 
Here's GH conundrum...he is still relatively young! What, 40 or abouts?

I mean, the guy has built-up a lifestyle and way of living for himself/wife/family in general...how is he going to pay for all of that the next 30-40 years of their lives? Well, by writing a book, the tell all extraordinaire!! Build some over priced B&B in Carolina...overcharge for that..do advertising for places that are more than willing to use him etc...

Hey...a guy's gotta eat!!!
 
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It is good to hear George has no problem being called a junkie. I kinda felt bad about that for a while but if he is cool with then I guess we can continue

We should make a poll. What is the more questionable claim from George?......The first time he doped was by using EPO in 1996 or that he stopped in 2006?

The BS meter is off the charts for both of those claims
 

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