sniper said:kelderman, you gotta be kidding me.
btw, if i'm not mistaken, the whole Belkin team is now more permanently based in Girona.
http://www.jetsebol.nl/
Yeah, on top of that Giro? No way.
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sniper said:kelderman, you gotta be kidding me.
btw, if i'm not mistaken, the whole Belkin team is now more permanently based in Girona.
http://www.jetsebol.nl/
3 different cases: Contador and Froome we all know about their past and we all know that Contador has been suspended for doping in 2012.TANK91 said:I was shocked by Kelderman i must be honest i like the guy but it is unny when we hear all the stuff about CF and hardly anything against AC and WK.
Actually, riders who come off a GT and who have had a chance to rest for a bit have an edge over everyone else, as long as they didn't finish the GT sick or extremely exhausted. They come out of it extra lean and fit. This is why the Vuelta is the preferred method to prepare the WC.lllludo said:Of course yesterday's perf was surprisingly high especially for a guy who just finished the Giro last week.
hrotha said:Actually, riders who come off a GT and who have had a chance to rest for a bit have an edge over everyone else, as long as they didn't finish the GT sick or extremely exhausted. They come out of it extra lean and fit. This is why the Vuelta is the preferred method to prepare the WC.
TANK91 said:I was shocked by Kelderman i must be honest i like the guy but it is unny when we hear all the stuff about CF and hardly anything against AC and WK.
The Giro is probably the hardest Grand Tour and usually riders finish tired after and have lower hematocrit values. Successful riders in the Dauphine, one week after a successful Giro, are very rare.hrotha said:Actually, riders who come off a GT and who have had a chance to rest for a bit have an edge over everyone else, as long as they didn't finish the GT sick or extremely exhausted. They come out of it extra lean and fit. This is why the Vuelta is the preferred method to prepare the WC.
lllludo said:The Giro is probably the hardest Grand Tour and usually riders finish tired after and have lower hematocrit values. Successful riders in the Dauphine, one week after a successful Giro, are very rare.
Sometimes you can see riders perform well in the Tour de Suisse. 10 years ago it was common for guys like Frigo, Simoni, Belli, Casagrande to be strong on both races but now we know they were doing it with blood doping.
the sceptic said:They seem plausible this tour too. Doesnt mean they are clean but I wouldnt call them dopers without anything to back it up with.
i'd be more cautious.elduggo said:Ten Dam in particular.
I'd still like to know what they do to recover from stage to stage, but to me LTD looks about the yardstick for clean riding this year.
i'm missing your point here.even moreso considering the future of the team was in doubt and many of those riders might have juiced for fear they'd be without a contract for 2015.
sniper said:i'm missing your point here.
the fear of losing out on a contract is perhaps nr. 1 reason why most riders dope or start doping.
why would ten dam and mollema be any different?
i see, thanks for expanding.elduggo said:no thats what I mean. The fear of their losing a contract (ala Froome in 2011) might have seen them challenging for podium rather than just to get into the top 10.
elduggo said:Ten Dam in particular.
I'd still like to know what they do to recover from stage to stage, but to me LTD looks about the yardstick for clean riding this year.
even moreso considering the future of the team was in doubt and many of those riders might have juiced for fear they'd be without a contract for 2015.
He attributes his fine overall result to hitting peak form at the right time, but also to what he said was a cleaner race.
“It’s more of a personal thing for me. I can’t point fingers at the other riders,” he said, speaking of his position on ethics. “I know how I did it and I am really happy with how I did it. But to be honest, I believe the race was really clean.
“For me, when I see the guys ahead of me, I think it’s a clean Tour and I am happy with the results I am getting at age 33. I’m not thinking about results I could have gotten at age 25 but I am happy with my life. I can look everyone in the eye and for me that’s important.”
Stop being so hysterical.Cycle Chic said:LAURENS TEN DAM
So, Mr 'I have nothing to hide just look at all my data' Ten Dam just ruined his smokescreen...
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/laurens-ten-dam-interview-dutchman-really-happy-with-tour/
I don't get it.Cycle Chic said:LAURENS TEN DAM
So, Mr 'I have nothing to hide just look at all my data' Ten Dam just ruined his smokescreen...
http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/laurens-ten-dam-interview-dutchman-really-happy-with-tour/
hrotha said:I don't get it.
Yes. You need to say how any of that relates to his smokescreen-ruining business.Cycle Chic said:well to say that he thinks the tdf was really clean is laughable.
when he looks at the guys ahead of him he thinks its a clean tour - need i say more.