mombus said:in the states
Heh, I think you guys are getting over it quicker than what we are here. I'm still recovering from the TdU.
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mombus said:in the states
Hugh Januss said:I believe in Santa Claus but not the Easter Bunny, that sh*t is just wack.
dbrower said:I'm the other way around; the Easter Bunny still leaves me stuff I like.
TShame said:First, I am appalled by moderators statements. Can I not state my opinion without jeopardy? I am not making baseless accusations or posting hateful personal attacks. I do not want this thread buried in some miscellaneous thread about Armstrong or Landis. This is a separate, major issue using logic and basic human nature.
That being said, I believe that Landis doped just as he confessed...HGH,EPO, test patches, and blood.
I have grave doubts that any rider on UPS, especially Armstrong would jeopardize his entire career by doing drugs in full view of the whole team, including Landis. No way. Even on other teams where riders have confessed to doping, NONE of them did so in front of other riders.
As to Landis statement that Periro said he would defend the yellow through the final time trial because he had a fresh transfusion....total lie. What rider would ever tell a rival that he just doped? especially when the TdF title was at stake?
Landis knows that these stories can not be verified by anyone else. However, attacking the reputation of other riders in an effort to justify his use of drugs and cheating is worse than his other crimes.
TShame said:First, I am appalled by moderators statements. Can I not state my opinion without jeopardy? I am not making baseless accusations or posting hateful personal attacks. I do not want this thread buried in some miscellaneous thread about Armstrong or Landis. This is a separate, major issue using logic and basic human nature.
TS said:That being said, I believe that Landis doped just as he confessed...HGH,EPO, test patches, and blood.
TS said:I have grave doubts that any rider on UPS, especially Armstrong would jeopardize his entire career by doing drugs in full view of the whole team, including Landis. No way. Even on other teams where riders have confessed to doping, NONE of them did so in front of other riders.
TS said:As to Landis statement that Periro said he would defend the yellow through the final time trial because he had a fresh transfusion....total lie. What rider would ever tell a rival that he just doped? especially when the TdF title was at stake?
TS said:Landis knows that these stories can not be verified by anyone else. However, attacking the reputation of other riders in an effort to justify his use of drugs and cheating is worse than his other crimes.
TShame said:First, I am appalled by moderators statements. Can I not state my opinion without jeopardy? I am not making baseless accusations or posting hateful personal attacks. I do not want this thread buried in some miscellaneous thread about Armstrong or Landis. This is a separate, major issue using logic and basic human nature.
darkcloud said:I wonder why Lance would not volunteer to submit to a professionally administered polygraph test. It couldn't be because he might fail, could it?
BroDeal said:I don't think he would. Sociopaths can lie without any guilt or emotional response. By now lying is a way of life for Armstrong. It's like eating Wheaties in the morning. It is just part of his everyday existence.
Hugh Januss said:I believe in Santa Claus but not the Easter Bunny, that sh*t is just wack.
Thoughtforfood said:I don't know why you believe in any of that sh!t. Bigfoot is the only fictional character that we can believe in with any certainty. I totally caught my parents putting my bike together when I was 7, and I was like "man, f*ck you guys. Is that what parents do? They lie? THEY FU*KING LIE!!!!????...YOU TAKE YOUR SANTA BULLSH!T AND THAT BIKE AND SHOVE IT SO FAR UP YOUR A$$ THAT YOU CAN HONK THE HORN BY COUGHING!!! THIS IS BULLSH!T AND I WILL DO EVERYTHING YOU TELL ME IS BAD FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!!!" (okay, the only part that is true is the last part...though I didn't ever say that, I did put it into practice from the age of 14 to 23...but I digress)
ANYWAY, then the whole GIANT bunny thing wasn't something my parents even considered blowing up my a$$ that spring. I walked into the kitchen Easter Sunday morning, and my parents were like "hey dude, here's your chocolate" and I was like "ur fu*king A right here is my chocolate, now fix me some breakfast and try to convince me that auto-erotic asphyxiation isn't something I should try 3 minutes after my first pubic hair sprouts...b!tches."
But that bigfoot thing, they were all like, no, no man, that is just a man in a fur suit...and I was all "I ain't talkin' about grandma' ya' punk a$$ed douchebags, Bigfoot is real, and if you say different, I am going to grab some of dad's diabetic needles and start cooking up various things from the spice rack to see what gives me the best rush..."
So yea, Bigfoot is real.
BroDeal said:Actually I think I saw Bigfoot while riding yesterday. He was drinkin' a pina colada at Trader Vic's. And his hair was perfect.
Oldman said:What part of London?
darkcloud said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_SAAUO_tbY
Listen to this interview 45 seconds in. The doping is no big secret. Why would you believe that one teammate would not take an active role in helping another teammate dope up in an attempt to help the cause?
darkcloud said:I wonder why Lance would not volunteer to submit to a professionally administered polygraph test. It couldn't be because he might fail, could it?
BroDeal said:It was in Soho. I think he just ate at Lee Ho Fooks.
online-rider said:Lol. Not meaning to derail this thread away from its subject but that video of Millar reminds me of a Cyclesport article circa 2002, when Massimiliano Lelli takes David to his horse farm in Tuscany and theres lots of photos of them wearing dun jackets and high leather boots. Does anyone else remember that?
The jist being that David wasn't meeting the expectations of Cofidis management properly so they bought in Lelli to try and imbibe him with the proper culture. It just makes me wonder now if an unwillingness to dope
was the problem Cofidis had with him. ?
BroDeal said:It was in Soho. I think he just ate at Lee Ho Fooks.
Spider1964 said:I think the OP may have hit CTRL-ALT-DEL on his brain?
hughmoore said:I dont believe anything on the internet
Cloxxki said:On the internet at least some of the content is the truth.
If you subtract from thr written word books written by cyclist about their cleanliness, and on the internet add the wikileak docs, I think the balance is already shifting.
I only read the internet anymore, as written word is by definition outdated.
I'll just add that I believe more in Bigfoot to exist than Lance to be clean.
What are the odds for something people have seen around the world to be false over what teammates vow to be the truth, even if leaking it terminally hurts their carreers?
BroDeal said:It was in Soho. I think he just ate at Lee Ho Fooks.