Il Lombardia 2024, one day monument, October 12, farewell to Domenico Pozzovivo

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you what would make me warm to Lombardia? if they raced it before the Giro. but it clashes with Romandie. now it's just sad. never got any expectation, never really warmed to it. the season ends, winter and cold will come. just sad. it would a great race before the Giro. but there's really no weekend available, and May 1st is already taken by Eschborn-Frankfurt WT
I always have the same feeling. Maybe it’s just fatigue of a whole season, combined with the height of a WC that everything after it doesn’t interest me as much
 
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Lombardia for me is like the meme of the 2 men on the bus. the sad one looks at the wall (Lombardia) the other is looking at the sunny side, smiling, waiting for Sanremo.
 
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He had a broken colar bone and scapula from a crash two weeks prior to LBL. As a 2-time winner he will race LBL always if it fits his schedule and he isn't recovering. It's like Mvdp not riding Flanders. Of course he will, regardless of Pogacar.
Of course. So this is not a monolithic occurrence with schedules based on these situations.

And it cuts both ways. Pogi isn't going to ITT against remco at certain events. Even if he might almost be strong enough to prevail. It doesn't make sense to goals.
 
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Pretty sure he wasn't the only rider who had races on their announced schedules, but ended up not doing those races...
There's this thing about strawman arguments where things are suggested that are not at all the focus of the original topic. in this case, you said the topic of avoidance was made up and never happened and then pivoted to the idea injury. This isn't intended to hurt your feelings, but to bring this topic back to center.

Pogi did in fact release his schedule first and others scheduled around him before they were injured. And this isn't necessarily because Pogi seems to be stronger heading into the year, but maybe because historically riders don't like to line up against other strong competitors in build up races to the TdF. So avoidance did happen as described and suggested by others and it will happen again because it just doesn't make sense for these guys to challenge each other before the big prize.
 
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So avoidance did happen as described and suggested by others and it will happen again because it just doesn't make sense for these guys to challenge each other before the big prize.

Lombardia is "The big prize" - or at least one of the big prizes - so the riders skipping it (like Roglic) aren't doing it because they're trying to avoid Pogacar.

And just to be clear, my initial comment about the subject of avoidance was in reply to Jack_89's post thinking it was fans avoiding races with Pogacar.
(The post he replied to seemed very much like a joke.)
 
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Lombardia is "The big prize" - or at least one of the big prizes - so the riders skipping it (like Roglic) aren't doing it because they're trying to avoid Pogacar.

Top dogs (like Rogla or MVP) are skipping it because they don't think they have a good shot at victory. The decision is associated with their assessment of their own form vs potential competition (it can't be unnoticed how dominant Pogacar is). I don't think Roglic would target a top3 or top5 anywhere, he's a winner.
 
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Top dogs (like Rogla or MVP) are skipping it because they don't think they have a good shot at victory. The decision is associated with their assessment of their own form vs potential competition (it can't be unnoticed how dominant Pogacar is). I don't think Roglic would target a top3 or top5 anywhere, he's a winner.
Roglic would show up if he could do a good race. That means he would show up if knowing he's in for the podium with Pogacar 2 minutes ahead.
 
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Roglic would show up if he could do a good race. That means he would show up if knowing he's in for the podium with Pogacar 2 minutes ahead.

Well, I think there are a few guys like Pog, Rog, Remco, MVP, Vingo, who always think they can win (when in good enough form). That's why I think Rogla, even when realizing he's not the top favourite, still thinks he has a shot at victory. I don't believe he enters any race not thinking about victory (maybe except some warm-up races).
 
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Well, I think there are a few guys like Pog, Rog, Remco, MVP, Vingo, who always think they can win (when in good enough form). That's why I think Rogla, even when realizing he's not the top favourite, still thinks he has a shot at victory. I don't believe he enters any race not thinking about victory (maybe except some warm-up races).
If that were true, why did he race the WC this year?

For real, these guys are winners, but it's not like they just DNS when they can't win. Rogla actually battles really hard when he gets dropped in Lombardia to still get a result for example.
 
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If that were true, why did he race the WC this year?

For real, these guys are winners, but it's not like they just DNS when they can't win. Rogla actually battles really hard when he gets dropped in Lombardia to still get a result for example.

As for you first remark here is the answer:

I can't do any predictions, but the courses of both the individual time trial and road race suit me. On top of that, participating is good to keep the race rythm I need for #ILombardia. It's easier to remain in shape by racing.

As for the second, sure he's a fighter. Without this mentality he wouldn't get when he's now. But as you pointed out they are winners as well, who can assess they own form and potential impact on the race (ok, maybe top3 is still good enough in some races but you got my point it seems).
 
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If that were true, why did he race the WC this year?

For real, these guys are winners, but it's not like they just DNS when they can't win. Rogla actually battles really hard when he gets dropped in Lombardia to still get a result for example.
Agree – plenty of top riders would accept a podium or even sacrificing themselves to help a teammate, but they would never be there just to make up numbers.
 
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I know. I see all of you hyped for Il Lombardia. I don't feel it. my fault.
Hyped and looking forward to it are different things. Of course I’m looking forward to it—it’s Lombardia and Veneto and then that’s it for watching live racing this year. (I really enjoy watching cross but it’s on during the middle of the night, so I watch on replay).
 
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Changed the topic to reflect the last of the legend that is Domenico Pozzovivo. Bruised and battered, but he retires on a high.

Domenico Pozzovivo to retire after Il Lombardia: "To continue would be like asking for trouble"​