Ivan Basso Discussion Thread

[SafeBet]

Re:

Any footage of the press conference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaMd6Kqxu1I

#ForzaIvan

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

very sad news to read this about ivan

woke up
login to cn
not the news i was expecting to read on the front page

wishing him a speedy recovery

 

[Velolover2]

Makes me sad.

I hope Ivan will have a speedy recovery! Best luck and get well!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Any footage of the press conference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaMd6Kqxu1I

#ForzaIvan

So brave

 

[casati]

Re: Re:

Any footage of the press conference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaMd6Kqxu1I

#ForzaIvan

Very classy individual, still giving over to Alberto. Reminds you this is just a bike race, puts things in perspective, your health, the care and well being of yourself, your friends and your loved ones are the most important. The hope is that he gets through this well and makes a full recovery.

 

[ray j willings]

He will be fine. The crash seems to have turned out to be a good thing. " caught early, he did not mention lump just pain"
It must be so hard doing a press conference and saying those words even if its not life threatening.
His whole focus was to race the tour and now he has to go for an op. Very strange situation to be in and he handled himself very well at the press conference. Bravo Ivan.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Ivan Basso Official
Ciao, quello che sta succedendo lo sapete già, quello che ci tenevo a dirvi è che affronterò questa prova con la grinta di sempre e con la positività che mi avete trasmesso con tutti i vostri messaggi.
Amo il ciclismo che mi ha dato tanto e mi ha insegnato a stringere i denti quando c’è da lottare; adoro la mia famiglia che riempie la mia vita di gioia e mi ha dato la spinta per andare avanti nei momenti difficili; farò un gran tifo per la mia squadra, la Tinkoff-Saxo, alla quale auguro di portare Alberto, il nostro capitano, a Parigi in maglia gialla.
Nei prossimi giorni purtroppo non potrò stare in contatto con voi, ma tornerò a farlo molto presto perché siete la mia forza!
Grazie a tutti.
Ivan

 

[capuldemetal]

Speedy recovery! Sad news..

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Not good news at all, but I expect he will make a strong recovery.
I also doubt it has much to do with his decline as a rider as it seems to be in the very early stages, he is just old in cycling terms.

As far someone recovering from testicular cancer, Australian soccer player Craig Moore was cleared to play soccer again only six weeks after having surgery for testicular cancer. This might give some indication that Basso might race again given it is an early diagnosis. Of course every case is different, but this does not have to be horrid story.

 

[hfer07]

Re:

Not good news at all, but I expect he will make a strong recovery.
I also doubt it has much to do with his decline as a rider as it seems to be in the very early stages, he is just old in cycling terms.

As far someone recovering from testicular cancer, Australian soccer player Craig Moore was cleared to play soccer again only six weeks after having surgery for testicular cancer. This might give some indication that Basso might race again given it is an early diagnosis. Of course every case is different, but this does not have to be horrid story.

indeed. Is there any report on how serious/advanced is his case?

 

[Escarabajo]

Just heard the bad news.
Speedy recovery Ivan!

 

[Guybrush]

Ivan is an assassin, he'll kill this cancer in no time, vai vai ivan!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Not good news at all, but I expect he will make a strong recovery.
I also doubt it has much to do with his decline as a rider as it seems to be in the very early stages, he is just old in cycling terms.

As far someone recovering from testicular cancer, Australian soccer player Craig Moore was cleared to play soccer again only six weeks after having surgery for testicular cancer. This might give some indication that Basso might race again given it is an early diagnosis. Of course every case is different, but this does not have to be horrid story.

indeed. Is there any report on how serious/advanced is his case?

Doctor said 98-99% chance of full recovery, which apparently means it is a stage 1 tumor, so this was a very early detection.

 

[Jspear]

Well, I guess that crash was a blessing in disguise then. Glad they caught it so soon. Hope he recovers quickly.

 

[Merckx index]

I wonder what would happen if a contender were diagnosed in this manner, particularly someone like Froome who is very likely to win. Would he drop out, and abandon his chances of a title, or take a chance that two more weeks at this early stage wouldn't make much difference--and getting as much treatment as possible under the circumstances? If you think someone would be a fool to gamble like this, remember that athletes frequently take much bigger gambles with their lives, indeed, that fuels a lot of the doping.

In any case, there has to be a cutoff point, a stage in the race where a strong contender would continue to the finish. I can't imagine anyone leading after stage 20 dropping out just before the final stage to Paris, for example. But how far into a race would a contender have to be before he would make the decision to continue? I can see a point where it would be a real conflict.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

I wonder what would happen if a contender were diagnosed in the manner, particularly someone like Froome who is very likely to win. Would he drop out, and abandon his chances of a title, or take a chance that two more weeks at this early stage wouldn't make much difference--and getting as much treatment as possible under the circumstances? If you think someone would be a fool to gamble like this, remember that athletes frequently take much bigger gambles with their lives, indeed, that fuels a lot of the doping.

In any case, there has to be a cutoff point, a stage in the race where a strong contender would continue to the finish. I can't imagine anyone leading after stage 20 dropping out just before the final stage to Paris, for example. But how far into a race would a contender have to be before he would make the decision to continue? I can see a point where it would be a real conflict.

Any real gc contender would continue imo, cyclist are crazy

 

[damian13ster]

Couple of days won't make a difference, but if it is early in the race then I am sure everyone would drop out.
Hell, if a doctor who puts up a diagnosis doesn't intervene (notifying officials, etc.) and the health of an athlete worsens then I am pretty sure he could be legally charged.

It is really good that it was diagnosed so early. Should not take long to cure.

 

[SafeBet]

Re:

Ivan Basso Official
Ciao, quello che sta succedendo lo sapete già, quello che ci tenevo a dirvi è che affronterò questa prova con la grinta di sempre e con la positività che mi avete trasmesso con tutti i vostri messaggi.
Amo il ciclismo che mi ha dato tanto e mi ha insegnato a stringere i denti quando c’è da lottare; adoro la mia famiglia che riempie la mia vita di gioia e mi ha dato la spinta per andare avanti nei momenti difficili; farò un gran tifo per la mia squadra, la Tinkoff-Saxo, alla quale auguro di portare Alberto, il nostro capitano, a Parigi in maglia gialla.
Nei prossimi giorni purtroppo non potrò stare in contatto con voi, ma tornerò a farlo molto presto perché siete la mia forza!
Grazie a tutti.
Ivan

Translation:

Hey there, you all know what's going on. I just wanted to tell you that I'll face this challenge with the usual grit and the positive attitude you all gave me through your messages.
I love cycling, it gave me a lot and taught me not to give up when the fight is on; I love my family, they fill my life with joy and they pushed me through the difficult times; I'll strongly support my team, Tinkoff-Saxo, and I hope to see our captain Alberto with the yellow jersey in Paris.
I won't be able to keep in touch with you in the next few days, but I'll be back soon because you're my strength!
Thank you all.
Ivan

 

[peloton]

Awful news
Thankfully the prognosis looks very good, doesn't make it any less serious though

Forza Ivan!

 

[ray j willings]

Re:

I wonder what would happen if a contender were diagnosed in this manner, particularly someone like Froome who is very likely to win. Would he drop out, and abandon his chances of a title, or take a chance that two more weeks at this early stage wouldn't make much difference--and getting as much treatment as possible under the circumstances? If you think someone would be a fool to gamble like this, remember that athletes frequently take much bigger gambles with their lives, indeed, that fuels a lot of the doping.

In any case, there has to be a cutoff point, a stage in the race where a strong contender would continue to the finish. I can't imagine anyone leading after stage 20 dropping out just before the final stage to Paris, for example. But how far into a race would a contender have to be before he would make the decision to continue? I can see a point where it would be a real conflict.

No conflict. You get treated ASAP. A day a few hours could make a difference. You would be an idiot to delay any treatment for the sake of a victory.

A few little interesting facts.

Testicular cancer is generally found in young men. The exact cause of testicular cancer is unknown and many men without risk factors develop testicular cancer. Strong connections between certain lifestyles, habits or activities, such as bike riding, have not been made with testicular cancer. Injuries and strains will not increase the risk of developing testicular cancer.

Age: Young men between the ages of 15-35 are at the highest risk for testicular cancer. However, it can occur in men of any age.

Race: Testicular cancer is 4.5 times more common in white men verses black men. The risk for Hispanics, American Indians and Asians falls between that of white and black men

 

[Taxus4a]

My best wishes for Basso. What a bad luck!. He born the same week than me, so maybe for that I have always like him a little, more in the past.
he need to be strong now and I am sure that he will pass this as Lance , Markel irizar and a friend of mine who play rugby did and now have a normal life.

 

[Taxus4a]

I remenber Basso was a good friend of Lance becouse his mother has a cancen and finally died.

Thing of life now Ivan has the same illness than Lance.

 

[hfer07]

Re: Re:

Not good news at all, but I expect he will make a strong recovery.
I also doubt it has much to do with his decline as a rider as it seems to be in the very early stages, he is just old in cycling terms.

As far someone recovering from testicular cancer, Australian soccer player Craig Moore was cleared to play soccer again only six weeks after having surgery for testicular cancer. This might give some indication that Basso might race again given it is an early diagnosis. Of course every case is different, but this does not have to be horrid story.

indeed. Is there any report on how serious/advanced is his case?

Doctor said 98-99% chance of full recovery, which apparently means it is a stage 1 tumor, so this was a very early detection.

thanks Flor. Luckily he recovers soon enough to ride one last race. best wishes to him.

 

[sir fly]

Really unpleasant news, but I'm sure he'll recover.
Support to Ivan.

 

[Miburo]

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I remenber Basso was a good friend of Lance becouse his mother has a cancen and finally died.

Thing of life now Ivan has the same illness than Lance.

Way less worse than lance though, with lance it was in a very advanced stage