Jan Ullrich still has it!!!

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Kokoso said:
It isn't 1.4 grams, but 1.4 pro mille. That's 0.67 mg/l.

Correct. That would be app. 3 beers, perhaps 4. Now, who can hold his hand up that they have never ever been driving after drinking 3 beers? I agree to is a stupid thing to do, but the guy is human and makes mistakes and it isn't anything close to being p!ss drunk while driving.

Note: Ullrich himself claims that the DUI accusation is incorrect, if I understand it correctly, so perhaps we should hold back on the lynching for just now.
 
Lol it's more likely to be over 8 than 3.

If he weights ~80kg he would have to have 5 beers of alcohol in his blood without any of it being metabolised(?). Or more likely since 1) He wouldn't have drunk it all in a second and 2) it takes time for the alcohol to get out in the blood, he probably started drinking his beers 2-3 hours before he was tested, so that's another two beers, so at least 7 beers. If he drank for longer, or drank within the last hour, and as such still having alcohol in his body that isn't in the blood, so it could very well be more than 7, but under no circumstances less than 6.
 
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GJB123 said:
Correct. That would be app. 3 beers, perhaps 4. Now, who can hold his hand up that they have never ever been driving after drinking 3 beers? I agree to is a stupid thing to do, but the guy is human and makes mistakes and it isn't anything close to being p!ss drunk while driving.

Note: Ullrich himself claims that the DUI accusation is incorrect, if I understand it correctly, so perhaps we should hold back on the lynching for just now.

What is 3 beers, 3 pints of beer?, do ppl really in this day and age drive with 3 pints in there system.

Never driven after drinking anywhere near that much beer.
 
Susan Westemeyer said:
He has now admitted that alcohol was involved.
That was fast. Thought he will keep this for a book.
Seriously now, I hope they are all OK. Sorry for Jan, I was living with the impression that he is a calm, out of trouble person.
 
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McLovin said:
That was fast. Thought he will keep this for a book.
Seriously now, I hope they are all OK. Sorry for Jan, I was living with the impression that he is a calm, out of trouble person.

No, he is not the person that you would like him to be. He may not have a big mouth like Armstrong but he is digging himself into a similar whole.
 
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Netserk said:
If he weights ~80kg he would have to have 5 beers of alcohol in his blood without any of it being metabolised
Very much depends on how much is one beer. So you can be right or completely wrong. Cleverly written :)
 
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arvc40 said:
Scum bag. End

arvc40 said:
No, he is not the person that you would like him to be. He may not have a big mouth like Armstrong but he is digging himself into a similar whole.

Why? Because he had 1.4 promille? Back in the 80s the alcohol limit was 1.2 in Germany (I guess it was similar in CH). So that doesn´t qualify him being a LA or scum bag. What is bad is that he drove too fast. OTOH, others do it too, he only drove 20 km/h too fast.
Actually it comes down to a accident that happens when speed is involved. Like it is on downhill skiing or road cycling. So is the majority of people scum bags?
True scum bags maybe those crazy motorbike riders who endanger everybody on streets (cyclists, car drivers, pedestrians) with their dumb extreme high speed hobby.

So before calling out somebody, better be sure what your are talking of. Otherwise you might end up as the sole scum bag involved.
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Why? Because he had 1.4 promille? Back in the 80s the alcohol limit was 1.2 in Germany (I guess it was similar in CH). So that doesn´t qualify him being a LA or scum bag. What is bad is that he drove too fast. OTOH, others do it too, he only drove 20 km/h too fast.
Actually it comes down to a accident that happens when speed is involved. Like it is on downhill skiing or road cycling. So is the majority of people scum bags?
True scum bags maybe those crazy motorbike riders who endanger everybody on streets (cyclists, car drivers, pedestrians) with their dumb extreme high speed hobby.

So before calling out somebody, better be sure what your are talking of. Otherwise you might end up as the sole scum bag involved.

When you knowingly put yourself behind the wheel having had a few drinks, you're incredibly reckless and apparently at that moment you're showing little concern for other people's and your own safety.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Why? Because he had 1.4 promille? Back in the 80s the alcohol limit was 1.2 in Germany (I guess it was similar in CH). So that doesn´t qualify him being a LA or scum bag. What is bad is that he drove too fast.
Well think twice and you might find out that he drove to fast because he had alcohol in himself ;) And then you'll change you point of view. Anyway he denied that he drunk alcohol...which isn't very nice too and he hit other riders who were in hospital. Definitely, I wouldn't like to meet you driving drunk with this approach.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
Why? Because he had 1.4 promille? Back in the 80s the alcohol limit was 1.2 in Germany (I guess it was similar in CH). So that doesn´t qualify him being a LA or scum bag. What is bad is that he drove too fast. OTOH, others do it too, he only drove 20 km/h too fast.
Actually it comes down to a accident that happens when speed is involved. Like it is on downhill skiing or road cycling. So is the majority of people scum bags?
True scum bags maybe those crazy motorbike riders who endanger everybody on streets (cyclists, car drivers, pedestrians) with their dumb extreme high speed hobby.

So before calling out somebody, better be sure what your are talking of. Otherwise you might end up as the sole scum bag involved.

Unbelievable !. There is nothing to debate on this. You do not drink and drive.
 
arvc40 said:
No, he is not the person that you would like him to be. He may not have a big mouth like Armstrong but he is digging himself into a similar whole.

I really don't see how he is doing this. He did make mistakes, big ones like this for example, but he's never once that I can remember been self righteous and I haven't heard of him bullying or abusing power as a habit. Feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.

His behavior, sadly, is mostly excepted in Germany too. Famously once a Bavarian prime minister claimed one could safely drive having drunk 2 liters of beer.

Not to be misunderstood. I think his behavior is unacceptable, but a big part of Germans don't think so. It's not crossing a big line in our culture, so the awareness of doing something wrong is limeted. Some even see it as rebellion for their own freedom (which is nuts, but so is the FDP idea of freedom which is solely the freedom of onceself not theother. And they got 14% of the vote once)
 
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Netserk said:
A standard. 330ml @ 4.6%

I have to find the place in Germany yet where that is standard. When it comes to bottles, 500ml is standard and in cafes that seems to be the standard most of the time as well.

It shouldn't however matter how many beers he drank, the fact he drank some beers at all before getting inside a car is what caused the problem. I sincerely hope those others didn't sustain any lasting damage at all.