Jan Ullrich still has it!!!

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Yea, he is a great guy and it would be amazing to ride with Klöden and him.

Wish he was able to have won the Tour more or the Giro.
 
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Oh man, 2006 is still a scarf on my soul. I will never forget: in march or april or something I order some stuff on the German T-Mobile webshop and it was delayed and delayed and delayed... and then came Black Friday, a day before the start in Fribourg and that afternoon... a box finally arrived at my home with the jersey, the cap, the socks that our hero would have worn on his way to brutal humiliation of Ivan Basso and Tour de France victory.

What a painful memory.
 
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In how good of a shape was Ullrich in 2006? I mean with that route, he could easily have beaten Basso, but maybe not Robo Basso?
 
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Valv.Piti said:
In how good of a shape was Ullrich in 2006? I mean with that route, he could easily have beaten Basso, but maybe not Robo Basso?

I believed he was in een superb form, which himself he called it a Bomben-Form. That TdS time trial was magnificent.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
In how good of a shape was Ullrich in 2006? I mean with that route, he could easily have beaten Basso, but maybe not Robo Basso?
He won Tour de Suisse that year, even though, as I recall, Koldo Gil was beating him on the climbs. And he won the long TT in the Giro ahead of Basso, but not by much.
 

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Pennino said:
Valv.Piti said:
In how good of a shape was Ullrich in 2006? I mean with that route, he could easily have beaten Basso, but maybe not Robo Basso?

I believed he was in een superb form, which himself he called it a Bomben-Form. That TdS time trial was magnificent.
I dont doubt it, look how (relatively) skinny he was around that time.

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Pennino said:
Oh man, 2006 is still a scarf on my soul. I will never forget: in march or april or something I order some stuff on the German T-Mobile webshop and it was delayed and delayed and delayed... and then came Black Friday, a day before the start in Fribourg and that afternoon... a box finally arrived at my home with the jersey, the cap, the socks that our hero would have worn on his way to brutal humiliation of Ivan Basso and Tour de France victory.

What a painful memory.

Do you really believe in that? :rolleyes:

Sure, Jan was a great rider with a unique panache and Ivan had the Giro in his legs, but how could you be so sure he would have "humiliated" the only rider who managed to stay with LA on the climbs in 2004 and 2005 Tours (bar Courchevel 2005)?
 
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classicomano said:
Pennino said:
Valv.Piti said:
In how good of a shape was Ullrich in 2006? I mean with that route, he could easily have beaten Basso, but maybe not Robo Basso?

I believed he was in een superb form, which himself he called it a Bomben-Form. That TdS time trial was magnificent.
I dont doubt it, look how (relatively) skinny he was around that time.

He says in the interview he cracked in 1998 because he was skinnier than other years, so I wouldn't look to that
 
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It would have been a grest race because he beat Basso in the TT when he was in not as good form plus both teams were stacked. If he was in or close to 03 form he had a high chance of winning while if it was 97 no one would have touched him.
 
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Ivan_Basso_77 said:
Pennino said:
Oh man, 2006 is still a scarf on my soul. I will never forget: in march or april or something I order some stuff on the German T-Mobile webshop and it was delayed and delayed and delayed... and then came Black Friday, a day before the start in Fribourg and that afternoon... a box finally arrived at my home with the jersey, the cap, the socks that our hero would have worn on his way to brutal humiliation of Ivan Basso and Tour de France victory.

What a painful memory.

Do you really believe in that? :rolleyes:

Sure, Jan was a great rider with a unique panache and Ivan had the Giro in his legs, but how could you be so sure he would have "humiliated" the only rider who managed to stay with LA on the climbs in 2004 and 2005 Tours (bar Courchevel 2005)?

Well, I would like to preserve my memory like that ;)
 
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Ivan_Basso_77 said:
Pennino said:
Oh man, 2006 is still a scarf on my soul. I will never forget: in march or april or something I order some stuff on the German T-Mobile webshop and it was delayed and delayed and delayed... and then came Black Friday, a day before the start in Fribourg and that afternoon... a box finally arrived at my home with the jersey, the cap, the socks that our hero would have worn on his way to brutal humiliation of Ivan Basso and Tour de France victory.

What a painful memory.

Do you really believe in that? :rolleyes:

Sure, Jan was a great rider with a unique panache and Ivan had the Giro in his legs, but how could you be so sure he would have "humiliated" the only rider who managed to stay with LA on the climbs in 2004 and 2005 Tours (bar Courchevel 2005)?

116 timetrial kms would have been a big advantage for Ullrich. Even out of shape during the Giro he was 30s faster than Basso. In peak shape he would have gained at least 5 minutes in the 3 timetrials. The 2006 route was tailor made for Ullrich.
 
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In 2006 we would have finally seen the real Ullrich, the 96-98 Ullrich again. That's what makes it so hard to swallow. In 2006 his preparation was state of the art in every aspect. Much different to what it was from 99 - 05.
 
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Not at all. He was injured for months and didn't start training till April. It was his worst preparation since 2002.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Not at all. He was injured for months and didn't start training till April. It was his worst preparation since 2002.

Don't kill the dream! :D
 
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Nothing has come close to the kind of hype that he got after the first long ITT in the 2003 Tour de France, I still remember how people lost their mind and how everyone thought that the young Ullrich had finally returned.
My god, what a Tour, Mayo, Vino, Ullrich, Tyler being hard as nails, if I think about that Tour I still feel like the young boy who fell in love with this sport.
 
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GuyIncognito said:
Not at all. He was injured for months and didn't start training till April. It was his worst preparation since 2002.

That's not entirely true, he had a very good winter without any illnesses. He had his knee problems in march, but he had a good base .
Anyaway that was not what I was refering too when I meant his preparation was finally state of the art again, but of course, I know that's the wrong section of the Forum.
 
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Mayomaniac said:
Nothing has come close to the kind of hype that he got after the first long ITT in the 2003 Tour de France, I still remember how people lost their mind and how everyone thought that the young Ullrich had finally returned.
My god, what a Tour, Mayo, Vino, Ullrich, Tyler being hard as nails, if I think about that Tour I still feel like the young boy who fell in love with this sport.

If only Ullrich had tried an earlier attack the next day. I still don't get over that. Why the hell did he not try it.
 
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Mayomaniac said:
Nothing has come close to the kind of hype that he got after the first long ITT in the 2003 Tour de France, I still remember how people lost their mind and how everyone thought that the young Ullrich had finally returned.

Shame he lost so much time on Alpe d'Huez with a stomach bug and diarrhea
 
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Or not previewing the last ITT in person instead of watching a video. Unfortunately, we have all the hindsight compared to in the moment. I wish he had won another Tour and same with Klöden winning a GT.
 
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Bye Bye Bicycle said:
https://www.blick.ch/sport/rad/weil-er-auf-til-schweigers-party-randalierte-ex-radstar-jan-ullrich-auf-mallorca-verhaftet-id8688599.html

It's really painful to observe his downfall.

The website didn't work for me. Is that the report going around that he was arrested drunk for crashing his neighbor's party?
 
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SHAD0W93 said:
Bye Bye Bicycle said:
https://www.blick.ch/sport/rad/weil-er-auf-til-schweigers-party-randalierte-ex-radstar-jan-ullrich-auf-mallorca-verhaftet-id8688599.html

It's really painful to observe his downfall.

The website didn't work for me. Is that the report going around that he was arrested drunk for crashing his neighbor's party?

Yes, it is.