Jan Ullrich

[Cobblestoned]

He has written a book. There is a wonderful story after the drink driving, xtc incident where he wrote on the back of a wine label – “I’ll never be here again”. The book has the a picture of the label with the words. The book was only in German but ProCycling magazine did translate excerpts into English.

I would expect a new book but more along the lines of the first one. Another honest account of his life. Not a book about doping.

To just remind you again and to show something to the sceptics, IIRC, it was me who corrected you on another hog-tale some month ago, which was about the wine label, it's intention, the correct storys, the correct bookstory, the correct facts and the correct text on the wine-label.

Not that I would be proud of having to do this again.

Can be found here in this forum. Just look. Even included the wine-label.
Have to go now. No excuses needed.

So much about the hog-tales and his fantastic memory....

 

[doolols]

Let me give you one hint, dear newbie and ex-fanboy.

Well, I'll take your rather patronising tone in the light-hearted manner in which it may have been intended.

Shame you didn't spend some of your precious time to actually answer my question. Your post is so similar to many others - long on the criticism, short on detail. And may therefore be safely ignored.

 

[MacRoadie]

What beef does the Jan have with Jon Voight?

He wouldn't let him date Angelina?

 

[thehog]

What beef does the Jan have with Jon Voight?

Comments such as these:

"And in his declarations of rage against the fraudsters, Jens Voigt of the CSC racing team like an inquisitor: "Burn them on the stake!" Of course, when he made the remark, he had no idea that his teammate Ivan Basso would be among those suspended on Friday."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,424862,00.html

He made many comments directed in regards to OP in 2006. Jan was upset because Jens was part of the doping culture as much as anyone but was pretending to be a prophet who was above such things.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

First wife Gaby.

...
Aldag did visit his house to apologies for his remarks but Sarah wouldn’t let him in

Just for the record, Gaby was not his first wife. They were not married.

And his wife is Sara. His daughter (with Gaby) is Sarah.

Susan

 

[thehog]

Just for the record, Gaby was not his first wife. They were not married.

And his wife is Sara. His daughter (with Gaby) is Sarah.

Susan

Correct. I was doing it that from memory so give me a break on spelling of names!

http://www.life.com/celebrity-pictu...eparates-from-long-term-girlfriend-gaby-weiss

 

[Cloxxki]

I know that hog seems to be forgetting more than he manages to learn, and I read his posts with a filter to allow for that. It may not be fact-checked, but it's usually not far off.
Cobblestoned's downspeaking tone takes away from his posts' value. I will try to read over most of it hereonwards. Like I skip over Lance quotes more than one line long. Even if he pulls a cancer patient through it all by himself with daily hours long visits, he's still a manipulating bully and a liar. If Jan's true personality makes Mr. Bright and Yellow look angry, selfish and dull, then so be it. We are born equal, but not the same. Both have daddy issues, but dealt with it differently. Even if perhaps riding a bike hard was a large part of it for both. One does charity and keeps it silent, the other invites the press, does pictures with a man-sized check, and leaves on the comp...err, charity jet.

I'm glad to hear Jan is doing OK, and hope he's soon be able to admit to his full doping record under the terms he appparently set for that. He seems to have done pretty well in limited his damage from having been the unlucky one to get caught, without excessive lying after the fact. Not perfect, but could be much worse.

 

[McLovin]

What beef does the Jan have with Jon Voight?

Which Jon Voight? The one who sold his car to George Costanza?
On:
Didn't heard of. Maybe beacuse he set that mad chase after him, when Jan attacked in 2004 Tour? just sayin'.
Me and my friends had a small chat with Jens after a stage of Tour, last summer. So apparently it's a good think I didn't asked about Jan.

 

[webvan]

Maybe beacuse he set that mad chase after him, when Jan attacked in 2004 Tour? just sayin'.

No, he'd commented after the race that he understood, the previous explanation works better.. Why a podium contender decided to help the yellow jersey is the same old debate though...when it happens everyone is disgusted (same when Gewiss/Riis helped Indurain in 1995 when Jalabert took off) and when it doesn't you can have a Perreiro situation, so...

 

[Leopejo]

The book was only in German but ProCycling magazine did translate excerpts into English.

Never translated into English? That's a pity, as it has been translated at least into Italian and Polish. I especially liked the first chapters about life as a kid and promising cyclist in Eastern Europe: for example the sudden discovery of the Tour de France and another cycling world besides the Peace Race.

 

[Cobblestoned]

No, he'd commented after the race that he understood, the previous explanation works better.. Why a podium contender decided to help the yellow jersey is the same old debate though...when it happens everyone is disgusted (same when Gewiss/Riis helped Indurain in 1995 when Jalabert took off) and when it doesn't you can have a Perreiro situation, so...

Yes, Jan defended him when people called him "Judas" and wanted to kill him.

Best part for me was to see Jens freaking out about that issue, can be seen in "Overcoming".

"People are soooo dumb...."

 

[Cobblestoned]

If there won't come out anything next week, the (German) Ullrich-supporters will storm and burn down the CAS.
It's making the man crazy.

You heard it here first.

 

[McLovin]

here's a nice quote from a youtube video, the one where Ullrich attacked on Madeleine:

"Who cares about tactics?! Just put out 500 Watts and see how the field is flying apart."

Very true.

 

[Cloxxki]

here's a nice quote from a youtube video, the one where Ullrich attacked on Madeleine:

"Who cares about tactics?! Just put out 500 Watts and see how the field is flying apart."

Very true.

So that's what all those riders need SRM for. To ride just above the likely limit of the competition, to slaughter them within minutes without killing themselves, or ending up over-doing it like the usual suspects...

 

[Bavarianrider]

If there won't come out anything next week, the (German) Ullrich-supporters will storm and burn down the CAS.
It's making the man crazy.

You heard it here first.

No we are waiting with zen like patient

 

[cprior]

(German) Ullrich-supporters

with zen like patient

(…) then like (…) ?!?!? scnr

 

[Siriuscat]

http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/5441/5048/0/Award20207020FINAL20_2011.11.pdf

Hows your German??... this is on the CAS website

 

[Siriuscat]

http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/5441/5048/0/Award20207020FINAL20_2011.11.pdf

Found this on the CAS website my German isn't close to good enough to understand it. It says FINAL AWARD????

 

[Cloxxki]

http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/document/5441/5048/0/Award20207020FINAL20_2011.11.pdf

Found this on the CAS website my German isn't close to good enough to understand it. It says FINAL AWARD????

I can babble some German, but it's my 3rd language only. I'll try.

Lausanne, den 30. November 2011
Die Berufung von Antidoping Schweiz vom 1. März 2010 gegen Jan Ullrich wird
mangels Schiedsvereinbarung zwischen den Parteien abgewiesen.

Lausanne, November 30th 2011
The case of Swiss Antidoping against Jan Ullrich dated 1st March 2010 is denied by lack of an arbitration agreement between the parties.

 

[Cobblestoned]

The Ullrich fanclub - unit bianchi - on their way to Switzerland

We are willing to extend ultimatum till Thursday.
This is the last warning.

 

[Cobblestoned]

Mr. Nice guy Ullrich wanted to make the army stop for a moment, and after another postponement he again stated:

"The situation is not pretty and annoying me for a long time now. The whole thing is going on for more than five years now. I finally want to draw a line under the issue"
"If the decsion is finally made, then there begins a new era for me. Although it is not critical to my future plans, but I want to close that chapter, "said Ullrich, who" hopes for a reasonable judgment. "

Erneute CAS-Vertagung nervt Ullrich05.02.2012 - Wiesbaden (SID)
Jan Ullrich hat genervt auf die erneute Vertagung der Entscheidung in seinem Fall durch den internationalen Sportgerichtshof CAS reagiert. "Die Situation ist nicht schön und nervt mich schon lange. Die ganze Sache zieht sich ja schon über fünf Jahre. Ich möchte unter das Thema endlich einen Strich ziehen", sagte der einzige deutsche Tour-de-France-Sieger dem Sport-Informations-Dienst (SID) beim Ball des Sports.

Das höchste Sportgericht hatte "die dreimonatige Frist zur Urteilsverkündung" bis zum 10. Februar ausgedehnt und den Schiedsspruch damit bereits zum dritten Mal hinausgeschoben. Mit einem Urteil würde nach mehr als fünf Jahren der Fall um Ullrichs Verwicklung in die Affäre um den Dopingarzt Eufemiano Fuentes beendet. Die Affäre war einen Tag vor dem Start der Tour de France 2006 aufgedeckt worden.

"Wenn das Urteil endlich ausgesprochen ist, beginnt für mich ein neue Epoche. Es ist zwar nicht mehr entscheidend für meine Zukunftsplanung, aber ich möchte das Kapitel endlich abschließen", sagte Ullrich, der "auf ein vernünftiges Urteil" hofft.

http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_73512.htm

 

[Bavarianrider]

I more and more fear he'll get a lifetime ban from procycling

 

[LaFlorecita]

I more and more fear he'll get a lifetime ban from procycling

So what, he isn't going to come back anyway.

 

[webvan]

Yeah but that also means he can't be involved in pro cycling at all, helping out at a team for instance, although with what happened to him he probably doesn't want to get anywhere near it at this time...especially with his cheating nemesis now scot free.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Jan Ullrich CAS anti-doping panel to announce ruling on Thursday

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...nnounce-ruling-on-Thursday.aspx#ixzz1ljrPBatx

Another big decision for cycling in complicated week for the sport
Continuing a few days where doping themes rather than race results have occupied many cycling headlines, the final verdict in the UCI’s appeal against Jan Ullrich will be announced in less than 48 hours time.

“The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) intends to publish its decision in the arbitration procedure involving the International Cycling Union (UCI), Jan Ullrich and Swiss Olympic on Thursday 9 February 2012,” CAS stated today on its website.

The news comes one day after Alberto Contador was handed a backdated two year ban and stripped of his 2010 Tour de France victory by a CAS arbitration panel.

It also follows four days after US Attorney General Andre Birotte Jr said that he was ending the federal investigation into Lance Armstrong but the US Anti Doping Agency said that it would continue its own enquiry.

Ullrich won the Tour de France in 1997 and finished second five times, but was implicated in the Operacion Puerto affair in 2006. He retired from the sport and was not sanctioned. The latter decision was appealed by both the UCI and Swiss Anti-Doping.

The latter’s move was thrown out by CAS on November 30th, with the panel stating that it didn’t have jurisdiction in the case for two reasons.

The first was the ‘absence of a valid arbitration agreement between Swiss Anti-Doping and Jan Ullrich to refer their dispute to the CAS’, while the second related to the fact that Ullrich was no longer a member of Swiss Cycling after October 19th 2006.

It meant that he was not bound by amendments to the Statutes of Swiss Olympic on 1 July 2 2008, which replaced the former Anti-doping panel of Swiss Olympic with the Swiss Anti-Doping.

When it dismissed that appeal, CAS acknowledged the UCI’s jurisdiction in the matter and said that it would issue its final decision in approximately six weeks.

Like the Contador ruling, that was delayed but is now set to be announced on Thursday