Johan gets served

[Race Radio]

As soon as he stepped of the plane The Hog was served

Can't say I didn't tell you....

 

[Topangarider]

Fantastic. Details please....

 

[VeloGirl]

Did he suspect anything? Or was it a total surprise?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Was it served cold?

 

[The Hitch]

Might anything come of this?

 

[ElChingon]

Links/pic's? Come on man the masses are waiting

Maybe we need to create our own pics?

 

[thehog]

Did Lance throw him under a bus?

No chance for Horner now minus the supplements.

 

[MacRoadie]

Wouldn't be surprised if he did. Blame Johann: old school Euro rider, introduced the team to doping program, etc. Had to go along, just ask Floyd and Tyler, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Sick twist is, he can even use the Landis and Hamilton comments as confirmation.

 

[laziali]

Sorry, have been away from the clinic for a while - served by?

 

[Race Radio]

Sorry, have been away from the clinic for a while - served by?

Some nice men who likely wanted to share recipes and stuff.

 

[Anonymous]

Okay...

Just back from a huge bar tab at the Back Abbey... And I am LMFAO!!!

Please let this not be a joke.

Anyhooo.. . If is see Johan do the perp walk I may never stop laughing..

 

[thehog]

No wonder he said its over and he's moved on! Small issue about having your team manager dropped down a mine.

 

[MacRoadie]

Okay...

Just back from a huge bar tab at the Back Abbey... And I am LMFAO!!!

That place is gonna be a mad house next Saturday...

 

[MacRoadie]

Ok, I'm a bit curious:

If the federal case against Armstrong was dropped, what is the liklihood that a federal case would survive against Johann?

If not the feds, then who would have served him? USADA doesn't have powers of subpoena...

 

[Topangarider]

Ok, I'm a bit curious:

If the federal case against Armstrong was dropped, what is the liklihood that a federal case would survive against Johann?

If not the feds, then who would have served him? USADA doesn't have powers of subpoena...

What does this clause mean - "unless the arbitration panel subpoenas them to testify"

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/86623-why-you-shouldnt-believe-marion-jones-vol-49)

USADA’s chief executive Tygart, then legal counsel to the organisation, explained to Velonews 2007-May-3 the procedure involved in obtaining such records.

“We are very limited in our authority to conduct investigations into alleged doping activity. We can collect samples, but unlike criminal investigators we have no power to compel witness interviews or to obtain medical/financial records unless the athlete consents to providing these documents or an arbitration panel orders their production. Also, we are unable to compel witnesses to provide information to us unless the arbitration panel subpoenas them to testify. So, the reality is that we are very limited in our ability to investigate facts outside of the results from drug tests.”[4]

 

[Fausto's Schnauzer]

 

[MarkvW]

Ok, I'm a bit curious:

If the federal case against Armstrong was dropped, what is the liklihood that a federal case would survive against Johann?

If not the feds, then who would have served him? USADA doesn't have powers of subpoena...

If it was a criminal case, Johan wouldn't have been served. In such a situation, the feds would have put the grabbus on him.

 

[MacRoadie]

If it was a criminal case, Johan wouldn't have been served. In such a situation, the feds would have put the grabbus on him.

Yeah, I understand that. That's the odd part.

Criminal case against Johann = stainless steel bracelets.
Criminal case against someone else = subpoena, but none exists (yet)
Ongoing grand jury investigation = subpoena (but the GJ was dismissed)
Civil case = subpoena, but what case and who did he talk to?
USADA case = no subpoena (no subpoena power at USADA)

 

[MarkvW]

Yeah, I understand that. That's the odd part.

Criminal case against Johann = stainless steel bracelets.
Criminal case against someone else = subpoena, but none exists (yet)
Ongoing grand jury investigation = subpoena (but the GJ was dismissed)
Civil case = subpoena, but what case and who did he talk to?
USADA case = no subpoena (no subpoena power at USADA)

Could be anything. No idea whether or not it's a subpoena or whether it is civil process. Child support? Contract breach? The qui tam?

 

[BroDeal]

Yeah, I understand that. That's the odd part.

Criminal case against Johann = stainless steel bracelets.
Criminal case against someone else = subpoena, but none exists (yet)
Ongoing grand jury investigation = subpoena (but the GJ was dismissed)
Civil case = subpoena, but what case and who did he talk to?
USADA case = no subpoena (no subpoena power at USADA)

DOJ joined the qui tam case?

 

[thehog]

Any more news on the Hog? Will he be in the team car? I guess that strikes him out of the Tour then?

Andersen back in the car in France?

 

[spetsa]

As soon as he stepped of the plane The Hog was served

Can't say I didn't tell you....

What are the chances that we still see the 7 day super human Matt Busche show?

 

[ChrisE]

Could be anything. No idea whether or not it's a subpoena or whether it is civil process. Child support? Contract breach? The qui tam?

It has to be the ongoing FL investigation, right?

 

[MarkvW]

It has to be the ongoing FL investigation, right?

Maybe it's a new Lance Armstrong investigation!

 

[BotanyBay]

It's all starting to make sense (this news, Lance's MJ comments, Floyd's reaction, etc).

My prediction: The USADA case is totally afoot. Any denials that Lance makes will be countered either by: released or leaked contradictions (or perhaps DOJ actually handed-over the files).

So this would mean that the MJ article was Lance's advance prep to lay down a foundation of: "I'm so sick of y'allz, that I'm just not going to answer these questions anymore. I'm so totally above this crap now. Let the haters hate. LiveStrong"

He's got his millions and still gets laid. And that's all he really cares about anyway. "F" everyone else. Sort of how he's been living his life for decades anyway.

End prediction: Uncontested USADA case, forfeited TdF results. Years of quiet civil litigation ahead.