Teams & Riders Jonas Vingegaard thread: Mountain Sprinter

[Froome]

He doesn't have Pogacar's explosivity...not to mention MVP. Even staying with them on Poggio is not easy and I don't think he descends good enough to beat guys like MVP or Mohoric downhill. Lombardy is the best for him. Liege and Strade are also worth giving a shot.

It would be difficult for him to win, but he have some chances to do a "surprise" if he does the race. Obviously guys like pogacar and van der poel are the favourites.

 

[AmRacer]

Motorič descent

🤣

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It would be difficult for him to win, but he have some chances to do a "surprise" if he does the race. Obviously guys like pogacar and van der poel are the favourites.

Maybe that's why he doesn't try (due to smaller chances). It's all in for stage races, it seems. Maybe at some later point of his career (after winning GT treble in one year) he'll try.

 

[acm]

I don't think he could drop everybody on poggio, it's a easy climb, but i not rule out that he can descent so well like mohoric did.

No one can descent like Moho. No one.

 

[DNP-Old]

No one can descent like Moho. No one.

That's just nonsense.

 

[acm]

Sure. He has shown that many times.

 

[DNP-Old]

Master descender Nibali levels of delusion.

 

[Netserk]

No one can descent like Moho. No one.

As in style or speed? Or specific aspects?

Van der Poel was quicker down Poggio last year than Mohorič was the year before. I'm quite sure he took the record. You can say that was in part down to strength out of the corners and not needing to pass by other riders, but there's no prize for an isolated ability to carry high speed.

 

[Red Rick]

As in style or speed? Or specific aspects?

Van der Poel was quicker down Poggio last year than Mohorič was the year before. I'm quite sure he took the record. You can say that was in part down to strength out of the corners and not needing to pass by other riders, but there's no prize for an isolated ability to carry high speed.

How big is the gap?

I can't imagine at all MvdP took the technical corners quicker cause he wasn't even taking them aggressively, and he also had the big benefit of raw power and not being recovering from being dropped when starting the descent

 

[Netserk]

By strength I meant when he had to accelerate to gain speed again. Poggio is about power, no doubt it's no alpine descent. Of course, Mohorič also made some mistakes that cost him by pushing it so hard.

EDIT: I looked it up, and I mistook who was quicker. Mohorič was 1 second faster than MvdP: @faustocoppi60

Mohorič was also 12" faster than Kelly: @faustocoppi60

 

[CyclistAbi]

Good luck descending as Moho but if foolish enough one can try. Said that even Moho is sometimes foolish when descending.

 

[Froome]

Good luck descending as Moho but if foolish enough one can try. Said that even Moho is sometimes foolish when descending.

After what Vingegaard did today and yesterday, that's all you have to say on vingegaard's thread @CyclistAbi ?

Are you not entertained?

 

[acm]

As in style or speed? Or specific aspects?

Van der Poel was quicker down Poggio last year than Mohorič was the year before. I'm quite sure he took the record. You can say that was in part down to strength out of the corners and not needing to pass by other riders, but there's no prize for an isolated ability to carry high speed.

A little bit of everything. The speed, the style, the technique, how he leans into the corner. Almost like riding a moto gp bike.

 

[CyclistAbi]

After what Vingegaard did today and yesterday, that's all you have to say on vingegaard's thread @CyclistAbi ?

Are you not entertained?

This are more of an exhibition rides, for now the most i got out of it is to see Bernal is making a comeback. So hopefully at least Cian if nobody else will try something tomorrow, Jonas needs a bit of challenge. Was thinking Carapaz will show more, not sure about that any more. Otherwise congratulations for winning a hat-trick are due. We'll see.

 

[CyclistAbi]

So yeah, Jonas switched from more defensive to always on an attack type of rider. He seems to be good at it and as such it can become a bit intoxicating. Still somehow i feel that his main rivals will successfully bring him down to earth soonish.

 

[SHAD0W93]

So yeah, Jonas switched from more defensive to always on an attack type of rider. He seems to be good at it and as such it can become a bit intoxicating. Still somehow i feel that his main rivals will successfully bring him down to earth soonish.

Just now noticing this?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Just now noticing this?

It's a process but lets say starting 2023 season i somehow feel he started becoming obsessed with it. So if the plan for season 2024 is even more of that, considering he is now undisputed stage race leader at Visma. Then it will be interesting to see on how that pans out. This style in my opinion is a bit foolish, when it comes to stage racing. But i get it, if you win the Tour, then you write the history. So lets see if they go too far with this or if they have it under control.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Vingo fans can now slightly lean towards appreciating the depth of Pogacar's versatility and prowess. But only because they fisherman boy is showing new abilities.

 

[Froome]

So yeah, Jonas switched from more defensive to always on an attack type of rider. He seems to be good at it and as such it can become a bit intoxicating. Still somehow i feel that his main rivals will successfully bring him down to earth soonish.

The most beautiful part yesterday, was how he did the descent.

 

[Netserk]

The most beautiful part yesterday, was how he did the descent.

Even took 5" on Tarling on the descent proper (despite more advantageous moto for the chasers).

 

[jmdirt]

He definitely has GREAT February fitness!

 

[The Clogger]

He definitely has GREAT February fitness!

Fourth year in a row so we expect nothing less!

 

[Netserk]

In 13 days:

 

[Red Rick]

In 13 days:

Are we really not expecting him to launch the day before on San Giacomo already?

But Petrano is a great climb to blow up the base

 

[Froome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1761849598069342688

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1761849598069342688


Nothing special for him, but it was enough.