Jonathan Tiernan-Locke written to by UCI, asked to explain blood values

[Netserk]

Well I don't care if it's public or not as long as the riders are suspended.

So you wouldn't mind if Armstrong's ban was kept secret?

 

[thehog]

Operative words in bold. Sceptic has a good point. So now folks are supposed to check the UCI's pdf link daily to see if any new suspensions have been handed down?

Would be better if UCI would follow USADA's example and have all suspensions on a dedicated webpage, and send out a brief tweet/press release to alert every time a new suspension has been ruled upon. Let the public go to the website to see the details.

I'd also like some form of summary on why he was suspended. ie the reasons provided by JTL in his defence and the UCI determination that he was.

That would be very normal in a court of law to provide a summary with the decision handed down.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Sorry but how is it secret in any way? We are talking about it now, what a few hours or less after it went on the website.

 

[Netserk]

Sorry but how is it secret in any way?

Has anyone claimed it is secret?

 

[Benotti69]

So Brailsfords asks "why no doping questions?" at Porte's rest day press conference

Today he walks off onto bus when asked about JTL.

Shane Stokes @SSbike · 21m
Transparency? Dave Brailsford answering questions from journalists at team bus. Asked him one about Tiernan Locke doing training camps with...

...team months before he joined Sky. Was going to ask why it didn't do it's own blood tests prior to signing. DB walks off mid question and...

...straight onto team bus. Brilliant.

Yeah, Sky are clean.

 

[thehog]

Sorry but how is it secret in any way? We are talking about it now, what a few hours or less after it went on the website.

Yes because after Menchov someone had the forethought to write a unix script to notify of changes on the UCI website.

Otherwise you wouldn't know.

 

[thehog]

I'd also like some form of summary on why he was suspended. ie the reasons provided by JTL in his defence and the UCI determination that he was.

That would be very normal in a court of law to provide a summary with the decision handed down.

This from the UCI;

The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) confirms receipt of the United Kingdom National Anti-Doping Panel’s decision on the Jonathan Tiernan-Locke case. A 2-year ban was imposed on the rider as a result of his anti-doping rule violation based on his Athlete Biological Passport. He is declared ineligible until December 31, 2015 and disqualified from the 2012 Tour of Britain and the 2012 UCI Road World Championships, competitions during which abnormalities were clearly identified. The UCI recognises the work of UKAD in providing the rider with a fair and independent hearing. At this stage, with the relevant appeal windows open, the UCI will not make any further comment on the case.

So he doped for the WCs under Brailsford?

 

[lllludo]

JTL was #3 in the UCI Europe Tour 2012. He 's major case of public interest isn't he ? Btw does it bring DiLuca back on the podium of the UCI Europe Tour 2012 then ?

The new UCI policy of not-anouncing major doping cases has just started with a russian and a british rider. Bad coincidence isn't it Igor and Brian ?

btw what's the purpose of the UKAD statement ? It's just an empty disclaimer

 

[doperhopper]

This from the UCI;



So he doped for the WCs under Brailsford?

Give him back his wins! Recommended by 12 out iu 23 TdF winners (lead by the guys likes BigMig)

 

[thehog]

JTL was #3 in the UCI Europe Tour 2012. He 's major case of public interest isn't he ? Btw does it bring DiLuca back on the podium of the UCI Europe Tour 2012 then ?

The new UCI policy of not-anouncing major doping cases has just started with a russian and a british rider. Bad coincidence isn't it Igor and Brian ?

btw what's the purpose of the UKAD statement ? It's just an empty disclaimer

Yes it is interesting. JTL is now "the man who knows too much".

Barker, 34, now with Team Raleigh after his successful Team UK Youth folded in the autumn, said: “I’ve known Jon since he was a junior, and I would be the first person to stand up and say that he’s a good guy who I would never suspect of doing anything wrong.”

“There are discrepancies in all our bodies and our blood values, and they often happen naturally.

“But you have to look at Jon’s case in the bigger picture.

“Everyone at that team (Team Sky) is very determined to preserve and promote the good name of the team, and that’s understandable.

“But that doesn’t extend to individuals, especially if there is an element of doubt about any of them.

“We also have a governing body (UCI) which has an absolute interest in protecting their system, and wants to be seen to be acting on evidence of wrong-doing, even when it’s inconclusive.

“That system doesn’t involve looking after individuals’ interests either.

“It’s a really difficult situation for Jon, because it looks like he’s been caught between the interests of two systems.

“I do wish him all the best.

“He may well be feeling angry at the moment, but it’s really important for him not to make big decisions now.

“He must give himself enough time, and make decisions when he is calm.

 

[SundayRider]

No way that his performance in the WC RR 2012 was clean. That was an exceptionally good performance for a rider racing against the best of the best, a rider who had hardly ridden at that level prior to that season.

 

[jens_attacks]

comme il est fort le brit!

thanks JTL, there were some good moments i hope he comes back and gets those liege wins.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

What did I say they withhold the JTL release until after Froome's participation in the Tour.
Froome outta the Tdf
JTL outta Sky.

Damage limitation

 

[thehog]

What did I say they withhold the JTL release until after Froome's participation in the Tour.
Froome outta the Tdf
JTL outta Sky.

Damage limitation

Fairly obviously now why UKAD delayed the hearing until the Tour so it would get buried in the news.

 

[del1962]

This case has been dealt with a lot more quickly than the Menchov and Kreuziger cases, keep an eye on the UCI website for the Kreuziger suspension

 

[Catwhoorg]

Fairly obviously now why UKAD delayed the hearing until the Tour so it would get buried in the news.

To be fair though it was a conflict with one of JTL's legal team rather than UKAD.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I'd also like some form of summary on why he was suspended. ie the reasons provided by JTL in his defence and the UCI determination that he was.

That would be very normal in a court of law to provide a summary with the decision handed down.

UKAD will put up their reasoned decision. Once the deadline for appeals has run or the appeal has been held whichever is relevant.

In this case their will be a whole lot more transparency that with most NADO hearings.

 

[SundayRider]

What do you reckon he was doing then ? BBs or EPO or the two together?

 

[The Tsurani]

Anyone remember this?
http://m.cyclingnews.com/features/opinion-why-i-think-jon-tiernan-locke-is-clean

 

[Catwhoorg]

What I am most interested in in the reasons for the timeframe of the Ban.

Jan 1st 2014 - Dec 31st 2015.

Seems odd as it doesn't tie in with any relevant date that I can make out. Not the charging letter, certainly any test taken, as the letter was already out then.

 

[willbick]

What do you reckon he was doing then ? BBs or EPO or the two together?

Any idea how a rider would go about doping, assuming it wasnt supported by his team?

Why are people implicating Sky in this?

 

[del1962]

What I am most interested in in the reasons for the timeframe of the Ban.

Jan 1st 2014 - Dec 31st 2015.

Seems odd as it doesn't tie in with any relevant date that I can make out. Not the charging letter, certainly any test taken, as the letter was already out then.

Opening of proceedinngs against him I think, the letter was where he was asked to explain

he was formally notified of a UCI anti-doping violation on 16 December 2013

 

[bigcog]

Any idea how a rider would go about doping, assuming it wasnt supported by his team?

Why are people implicating Sky in this?

You haven't been here long enough. Sky are blamed for everything. I'm surprised they haven't blamed for Menchov here ...

 

[Catwhoorg]

Any idea how a rider would go about doping, assuming it wasnt supported by his team?

Why are people implicating Sky in this?

In the simplest possible terms, he was training with Sky for much of 2012. Heck they help control the ToB for him to win it.

He may have been an Endura rider in name, but he was already working with Sky.

For the World RR (which result was also voided), he was directly working with British Cycling (meaning Sky coaches etc).

 

[poupou]

What kind of team would hire a rider without looking at his blood profile today?

No chance that Sky wasn't aware.