Jonathan Tiernan-Locke written to by UCI, asked to explain blood values

[JRanton]

Remember that tweet from Dan Martin from 18th February last year:

No doping controls for the 2nd race running though! Whats going on?

He was referring to the Tour of Med and Haut-Var. Martin knew JTL was a fake.

Nice job UCI!

And another tweet from Matt Brammeier this morning:

There's no such thing as fairy tales

 

[Zam_Olyas]

That's what I was thinking myself. I'm sure he will be commentating on Lombardy or Beijing in the next couple of weeks.

Remember Dan Martin criticising no doping controls at Haut Var and Mediterranean where JTL won. I wonder was this because of his suspicion of JTL's performance at the time.

I am sure it was and i was sure at the time of that tweet too.

 

[Ferminal]

@dnlbenson 52s

Brian Smith stands up for Jonathan Tiernan-Locke's performances and says Sky took rider under their wing from Sept last year.

Forreal!?

 

[gooner]

Speaking of Smith

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 1m
Brian Smith stands up for Jonathan Tiernan-Locke's performances and says Sky took rider under their wing from Sept last year.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

@dnlbenson 52s

Brian Smith stands up for Jonathan Tiernan-Locke's performances and says Sky took rider under their wing from Sept last year.

Forreal!?

I like this one

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 1m
Brian Smith: "Is Jonathan Tiernan-Locke a doper? Definitely not."

 

[Fatclimber]

So:

is really suspicious?
...... .

Nothing to see here, move along. Looks like the natural progression of a very talented rider with revolutionary training techniques and superior equipment. Imagine what a rider like that could do against a weak field... Well at least until he got ringworm or chiggers or whatever mystery virus it was that caused the drop off there.

 

[il_cobra]

he will be burn on fire i believe

dopped rider at team sky, what a shame

 

[EnacheV]

@dnlbenson 52s

Brian Smith stands up for Jonathan Tiernan-Locke's performances and says Sky took rider under their wing from Sept last year.

Forreal!?

"i know nothing, i did nothing"

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Donkey to racehorse at 27 without juicing simply doesn't happen in real life.

Lets get rid of JTL...

 

[SundayRider]

Surpirse surprise...I asked this question in the Sky thread last week...

 

[zigmeister]

you know JV does his due diligence to see that he is getting what he pays for. He only wants to know Pistolero can pass the tests and keep a pretty clean biopassport and manage his levels when winning doped.

JV wants to win doped, but look clean. That is his due diligence. Good in the respect that he will get what he pays for, and not have an embroglio and @ss fu,king like JTL

Are you talking about Vaughters??? If so, this is a completely ridiculous assertion which you have no evidence and proof of. Since JV posts on this forum, I think many would take exception of this out of line accusation.

JV has said previously, when they are looking at riders, they give them a time/date to be on a plane in a moments notice, must fly right to where they are, and when they get off the plane, they are tested. Does that mean they are clean and haven't doped? Of course not, but they get them at their height of performance/training, not when it is Thanksgiving weekend dinner when they do this. Surely a method to that madness to catch people off guard. If you have nothing to hide, then you will be there, major tour teams don't come knocking on your door, so you better be there, or something is wrong with the person.

If they are "late" to catch the plane, no-show, he claims they won't ever talk or sign them ever. They probably have one of the toughest contracts to ride under regarding doping and zero tolerance now. They do their own internal testing and such, we have no clue whether Sky has any program or testing like Garmin does in effect, doubtful. If they do, they don't like to talk about it, which would be to their benefit. A contract clause doens't mean anything though in the end, never stopped guys from doping of course.

JV has shown that he is all for giving guys a chance to race clean, even with a past/history of doping, he doesn't hide this. That is obvious by the guys on Garmin now and who have raced, which he knew before this entire downfall of LA and USADA, they doped. He kept it under wraps for the right time and really was an important piece of kicking off this entire doping issue in cycling the past year.

Shoot man, he came on the forum here and leaked about his own guys history of doping!!! Danielson, DaveZ etc...and hinted at the USADA issue and their part to help his guys stay in cycling and compete, for coming clean with their history. What other team has done this?!?! None.

Get serious man.

 

[argyllflyer]

Nothing to see here, move along. Looks like the natural progression of a very talented rider with revolutionary training techniques and superior equipment. Imagine what a rider like that could do against a weak field... Well at least until he got ringworm or chiggers or whatever mystery virus it was that caused the drop off there.

Erm, you do know that the rise in his performances on the graph comes from before he joined Sky? I wasn't aware of Endura's "revolutionary training techniques and superior equipment".

 

[Benotti69]

When did JLT start his BP? Was he BP tested on endura, are Pro conti teams in the BP?

So his values for this year is what is being looked at.

So his spike from last year is not on it.

 

[EnacheV]

When did JLT start his BP? Was he BP tested on endura, are Pro conti teams in the BP?

So his values for this year is what is being looked at.

So his spike from last year is not on it.

another example of how a dopeborg can miss the obvious

what about you read the thread and talk knowing what you talk about?

 

[sniper]

a summary of the facts thus far:

- JTL pulled a Wiggins
- Sky uses Walsh for a Limited Hangout
- Walsh still is Sky's *****

 

[Almeisan]

His values must be pretty suspicious for UCI to act on them.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Daniel Benson @dnlbenson
Brian Smith stands up for Jonathan Tiernan-Locke's performances and says Sky took rider under their wing from Sept last year.

Richard Moore @richardmoore73
@dnlbenson be also trained in Tenerife with them well before that

 

[argyllflyer]

another example of how a dopeborg can miss the obvious

what about you read the thread and talk knowing what you talk about?

Exactly. He was tested about a year ago until the end of the 2012 season (whether that was because he was leader of the UCI Europe Tour and winner of a handful of 2.1s or because he was heading to WT hasn't been stated), and the figures collected then don't match the data collected over 2013.

 

[Taxus4a]

At least Pecharromán was never really caught.

Really?? Why he leaves cycling??
Inside peloton almost everything is known.

But now we are in another time, and I am happy this cases are caught.

Yes, UCI protect english people...

Oh no, in World Tour doping is better than in a continental team, of course...
Yes..., Tiernan Locke improved a lot in SKY...

Ou wait, maybe SKy magical secret didnt work with him...
Could some tell me a rider that have left SKy and has never again dot the similar results or performance?

Nordaught was this year better tha all the Sky riders in Liege and it was top ten in Canada, Rogers? Contador working for him in Dauphiné,...Downset? won the ITT in the Giro, Loftvist won Mediterranean,...

Yes, Sky has more money to spend in the riders preparation, facilities, the best profesionals around him, to get good riders as Nieve this year, that is maybe not fair, but I didnt see any rare case without any explanation...

Tiernan Locke case hadnt a good explanation, and if he had, he must explain now to the UCI. I hope he has

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Garmin tested him, i wish Garmin could release his performance. What's up with Garmin/ saint vaughters of jonathan and their test?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Really?? Why he leaves cycling??
Inside peloton almost everything is known.

But now we are in another time, and I am happy this cases are caught.

Yes, UCI protect english people...

Oh no, in World Tour doping is better than in a continental team, of course...
Yes..., Tiernan Locke improved a lot in SKY...

Ou wait, maybe SKy magical secret didnt work with him...
Could some tell me a rider that have left SKy and has never again dot the similar results or performance?

Nordaught was this year better tha all the Sky riders in Liege and it was top ten in Canada, Rogers? Contador working for him in Dauphiné,...Downset? won the ITT in the Giro, Loftvist won Mediterranean,...

Yes, Sky has more money to spend in the riders preparation, facilities, the best profesionals around him, to get good riders as Nieve this year, that is maybe not fair, but I didnt see any rare case without any explanation...

Tiernan Locke case hadnt a good explanation, and if he had, he must explain now to the UCI. I hope he has

EnacheV approved as it is a long post.

 

[blackcat]

I like this one

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson 1m
Brian Smith: "Is Jonathan Tiernan-Locke a doper? Definitely not."

ask him to define "doper".

If Wiggins and Froome and Cav dont meet that definition, that is cool. Need to know what i am working with.

 

[GuyIncognito]

To recap

- Does nothing for years
- August 2011 suddenly gains superpowers
- Explains it away with an illness

I've just described two different Sky cyclists. One has just been busted. So, when is Froome going to get popped?

 

[blackcat]

Donkey to racehorse at 27 without juicing simply doesn't happen in real life.

Lets get rid of JTL...

but this is not real life.

this is cycling.

remember, armstrong was loved by all, and a fine upstanding citizen. hoy, cav, wiggins all bowed down before the alter of armstrong.

any sentient being can do the sum. just ask jan

 

[gooner]

Cookson isn't happy it has gone public. Further proof Walsh caught them off guard.

New UCI president Brian Cookson told BBC Radio 5 live's Sportsweek: "It's important that it [the inquiry] is handled properly and with integrity under the processes that are laid down. I certainly won't be interfering in it.

"I am concerned that it's leaked out because I don't think this information should be in the public domain while someone is being questioned. That's not the same at all as them being guilty and let's see what happens."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24321502