Jonathan Tiernan-Locke written to by UCI, asked to explain blood values

[LeindersGains]

I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

 

[doperhopper]

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What effect does his average night out on the town have on muscle mass ?

Lifting those pints - builds arm muscle

The Wiggo way! New TdF champ in making.

 

[the sceptic]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

I hope JTL comes back and crushes everyone in the tour of botland next year with a 65% hematocrit.

 

[thehog]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

I hope JTL comes back and crushes everyone in the tour of botland next year with a 65% hematocrit.

The 4th Grand Tour, The Tour of Botian?

The year JTL won they failed to even test for EPO. UKAD, finger on the pulse those guys

 

[Benotti69]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

I dont see any one calling him subhuman. He is being called out for drink driving.

As a former doper he seems to be perfect for Slippystream sports.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

JTL should hook up with Ricco.

 

[May0maniac]

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JTL should hook up with Ricco.

Riccò has started organizing training camps on Tenerife, maybe he needs an anglophone business partner to get new british costumers

 

[42x16ss]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

He didn't wait until he had a decent win before getting caught?

 

[MartinGT]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

I thought you would know this by now.

He is a small fish who thought he was a big fish. Small fish gets signed by a team who already have too many big fish looking to eat others, UCI have to keep control of how many fish are in the tank. If this small fish is great at responding to basic fish food, imagine what he would be like on super duper fish food the big team can afford. Too many big fish fighting.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

This was a special time. Remember that McQuaid was fighting to stay in office at the time and we now know for sure Cookson was looking to rid the federation of Verbruggen as well. That's one possibility.

The UCI typically picks athletes who cannot afford a rigorous defense, or perhaps cannot afford bribes to make the case go away. JTL was a perfect fit. Why they would choose a Sky rider instead of the usual Pro Continental that barely leaves a country, I don't know.

And yes, the UCI "likes" some riders and not others for no reasons understood from the outside. Riders get banned from the WT all the time. What happened to FuYu Li? Francisco Mancebo? Meanwhile, Contador is clearly favored by the federation.

What we know for sure is there is way more going on than just a positive test. Even then, this point we know samples are swapped (Russian IAAF controversy) and tests are manipulated to get the desired results. (Landis)

So, yeah. "their sport" is how it is operated. Who is the they though? No idea.

 

[Benotti69]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

This was a special time. Remember that McQuaid was fighting to stay in office at the time and we now know for sure Cookson was looking to rid the federation of Verbruggen as well. That's one possibility.

The UCI typically picks athletes who cannot afford a rigorous defense, or perhaps cannot afford bribes to make the case go away. JTL was a perfect fit. Why they would choose a Sky rider instead of the usual Pro Continental that barely leaves a country, I don't know.

And yes, the UCI "likes" some riders and not others for no reasons understood from the outside. Riders get banned from the WT all the time. What happened to FuYu Li? Francisco Mancebo? Meanwhile, Contador is clearly favored by the federation.

What we know for sure is there is way more going on than just a positive test. Even then, this point we know samples are swapped (Russian IAAF controversy) and tests are manipulated to get the desired results. (Landis)

So, yeah. "their sport" is how it is operated. Who is the they though? No idea.

I think McQuaid found that team sky were backing Cookson so he fired a warning shot.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

I'm fairly confident that if Sky had wanted to continue (over-)paying the non-performing JTL then his infraction would have gone away

 

[thehog]

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I'm fairly confident that if Sky had wanted to continue (over-)paying the non-performing JTL then his infraction would have gone away

Agreed.

 

[Lyon]

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I don't get why he is viewed subhuman by the UCI when other "former" dopers Hejsedal and Valverde get the royal treatment.

It's like he was never meant to be in "their" sport.

This was a special time. Remember that McQuaid was fighting to stay in office at the time and we now know for sure Cookson was looking to rid the federation of Verbruggen as well. That's one possibility.

The UCI typically picks athletes who cannot afford a rigorous defense, or perhaps cannot afford bribes to make the case go away. JTL was a perfect fit. Why they would choose a Sky rider instead of the usual Pro Continental that barely leaves a country, I don't know.

And yes, the UCI "likes" some riders and not others for no reasons understood from the outside. Riders get banned from the WT all the time. What happened to FuYu Li? Francisco Mancebo? Meanwhile, Contador is clearly favored by the federation.

What we know for sure is there is way more going on than just a positive test. Even then, this point we know samples are swapped (Russian IAAF controversy) and tests are manipulated to get the desired results. (Landis)

So, yeah. "their sport" is how it is operated. Who is the they though? No idea.

I think 'they' is a combination of an ever-changing group of people, chance, luck, leaks and opportunism. And then it is the UCI presidents job to look like the one in charge.

 

[Swifty's Cakes]

No longer on the UKAD banned list, Any news on what this lad is up to?

 

[Catwhoorg]

Last I saw (This would be the summer) he was planning on a return to the UK circuit, but no team was interested in him.

How much was related to the ban, and how much him being 20+lbs over race weight I am not sure.

 

[thehog]

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Last I saw (This would be the summer) he was planning on a return to the UK circuit, but no team was interested in him.

How much was related to the ban, and how much him being 20+lbs over race weight I am not sure.

Coaching & bike shop.

And

T_Locke: DI,MR,GVA,RK;floodgates.Probs TD soon.Swept under the proverbial.Cheers UCI, career derailed via passport by never doped athlete!

@J_T_Locke:There are others....from many teams. Seems a question of resources.

 

[MartinGT]

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No longer on the UKAD banned list, Any news on what this lad is up to?

Looking at his Instagram, fawning over his little hand bag dog.

Like Cat said, he was gonna race in the UK again, however do it off his own back.

 

[Catwhoorg]

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/jonathan-tiernan-locke-to-return-to-racing-in-february-as-doping-ban-expires-205736

Tiernan-Locke will take part in the Primavera Road Race near his home in Devon on Sunday, February 28, according to the Torquay Herald Express newspaper.

Don't know that race at all, but checking the BC website:
Last year it was 85km, won by Marcin Bialoblocki (ONE Pro Cyclying) who was the only UCI licensed rider at the race.

 

[jens_attacks]

Go go JTL

Bring back the primavera and then those 7 LBLs will come!

 

[fmk_RoI]

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Go go JTL

Bring back the primavera and then those 7 LBLs will come!

LBL - London-Brighton-London? I thought the return trip was optional and only done by people too poor to be able to travel by train?

 

[MartinGT]

Re: Jonathan Tiernan-Locke written to by UCI, asked to expla

33 units of alcohol! Thats the first time I have read that. Feck me, 33 units before the biggest race of his career. LOLZ!

 

[gillan1969]

Re: Jonathan Tiernan-Locke written to by UCI, asked to expla

33 units of alcohol! Thats the first time I have read that. Feck me, 33 units before the biggest race of his career. LOLZ!

Its funnier than that (he said with hazy memory), in order to get the maths to work in terms of dehydration then he didn't drink at all (i.e. water) on the Friday. I could have just about bought the piss up if he had DNF'd or finished 20 mins down...but to not drink at all the next day after 33 units and then pull off a blinder in the lead group at the fnale of the worlds..LOLZ

 

[vedrafjord]

So he wants to go into coaching? Who wants to get coaching advice from someone who was clearly rubbish when he was off the sauce? Nutrition advice from someone who's 15kg overweight? Or even doping advice from someone who posted a 155.8 off-score? Even old man Horner was able to keep his under 115 as he floated up Angliru.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I'll take some booze coaching from a guy who can hammer 33 units in a night.

Two to three glasses of wine or beers is about my limit these days before I feel it the day after (and often the day after THAT)