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People are now just hating him for fun. Like, he's not good on the gravel. He got dropped in Clasica Jaen by everyone and their mothers. If you thought that Ayuso was good for this stage, you're absolutely insane. He was probably suffering all day because he's really bad at gravel.
 
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balac said:
So, you admit that you were trolling thinking that he should have pulled today and talking about insubordination and stuff. Interesting.

Also, he pulled for 5 minutes on the Galibier. 3 more minutes than Adam Yates, btw.
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No, I certainly don't admit that. How did you get that conclusion from my post?

On the Galibier he evidently tried to save himself until Almeida humiliated him by calling him out. All reports have been that he doesn't care about Tadej and his battle for yellow, and everything we see helps to confirm those reports.
 
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balac said:
People are now just hating him for fun. Like, he's not good on the gravel. He got dropped in Clasica Jaen by everyone and their mothers. If you thought that Ayuso was good for this stage, you're absolutely insane. He was probably suffering all day because he's really bad at gravel.
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Must have beein my imagination when I saw him in front of two Bora riders. Trying to bridge back to the main group with Roglic in his wheel.
 
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tobydawq said:
All reports have been that he doesn't care about Tadej and his battle for yellow
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This is quite delusional if true. Maybe he has a strong person in his ear (father?) because knowing what the sport of cycling now knows about Pog, and knowing how young Ayuso is he otherwise seems the epitome of young and stupid. But this should be a matter for the UAE team bosses to sort out?
 
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This is quite delusional if true. Maybe he has a strong person in his ear (father?) because knowing what the sport of cycling now knows about Pog, and knowing how young Ayuso is he otherwise seems the epitome of young and stupid. But this should be a matter for the UAE team bosses to sort out?
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I guess they are the kind of people that think internal competition is the only way to keep your people at their best.
 
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I guess they are the kind of people that think internal competition is the only way to keep your people at their best.
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Well if that is UAE’s strategy it doesn’t make any logical sense. UAE have had their backsides handed to them by Visma two successive years at the Tour. The reason for that was Visma had a super strong leader and a team all working for that leader when it counted. So Vingegaard could deliver when it really mattered.

Pogacar is trying to do what nobody hasn’t achieved in 26 years. Ayuso has shown nothing to suggest he can’t wait at his young age.

The closest similarity to Alison is can think of is Andy Schleck. Andy came 2nd at the Giro when he was only 22. But Andy didn’t get greedy with ambition, he knew his time would come. Otherwise I doubt Carlos Sastre would have won the 2008 Tour.

And I don’t think anyone can question Pogacar’s motivation. He doesn’t need competition from within his own team he has plenty at Visma.
 
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More or less gifted rider but no generational talent but he walks like he is the new Pogacar. With some luck he can win a GT, I hope he will never accomplish much. Every rider is not blamable for being born with more or less genetic prowess but character is something you are responsible for. And Ayuso just sucks at that departament.
 
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Well if that is UAE’s strategy it doesn’t make any logical sense. UAE have had their backsides handed to them by Visma two successive years at the Tour. The reason for that was Visma had a super strong leader and a team all working for that leader when it counted. So Vingegaard could deliver when it really mattered.

Pogacar is trying to do what nobody hasn’t achieved in 26 years. Ayuso has shown nothing to suggest he can’t wait at his young age.

The closest similarity to Alison is can think of is Andy Schleck. Andy came 2nd at the Giro when he was only 22. But Andy didn’t get greedy with ambition, he knew his time would come. Otherwise I doubt Carlos Sastre would have won the 2008 Tour.

And I don’t think anyone can question Pogacar’s motivation. He doesn’t need competition from within his own team he has plenty at Visma.
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Or maybe management is just too conflict averse to try and handle affairs :sweatsmile:.
 
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