Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[staubsauger]

The best tactics would be to let Pogačar attack a bit earlier to test waters regarding Vingegaards strength. If the Dane follows let Ayuso join them and then he works for Pogačar, while riding himself away from Evenepoel for the podium spot.

If Pogačar is significantly stronger than Ayuso he just attacks and rides away, while Ayuso keeps going to stay away from Evenepoel & Roglic!

 

[scribers]

one problem with that is riding up to go with them after an attack usually entails dragging a competitor along for the ride

 

[SafeBet]

The only time Pogačar and Aru raced together while David de la Cruz was at UAE was at 2020 TDF and Pogačar was no.1 in that race and if I remember correctly he won that race while Aru DNF. They never raced togather since.

The whole world knew Pogacar would lead the team but UAE kept spreading the co-captain BS and Aru himself might have bought it.
So I wouldn't be entirely surprised if De la Cruz is telling the truth.

BTW Aru abandoned after being dropped in a flat stage.

 

[Mayomaniac]

The whole world knew Pogacar would lead the team but UAE kept spreading the co-captain BS and Aru himself might have bought it.
So I wouldn't be entirely surprised if De la Cruz is telling the truth.

BTW Aru abandoned after being dropped in a flat stage.

That was the "Cazzo di bici" outburst Vuelta that made Ernesto Colnago mad, right?

 

[skippo12]

Once again saved the GC hopes of his leader. Roglic couldn't ask for a better helper.

 

[ppanther92]

He had his nose in the wind today...




...when bridging with Roglic.

 

[tobydawq]

Is insubordination a sufficient reason for firing a rider?

 

[staubsauger]

Remember today's UAE team is the sequel of Saunier Duval rather than the continuation of Lampre!

Saunier Duval always has been like this. Especially at the 2007 Giro d'Italia with Simoni, Piepoli & Ricco following own ambitions! Even Mayo was allowed to win a stage for himself.

 

[balac]

People are now just hating him for fun. Like, he's not good on the gravel. He got dropped in Clasica Jaen by everyone and their mothers. If you thought that Ayuso was good for this stage, you're absolutely insane. He was probably suffering all day because he's really bad at gravel.

 

[Ripper]

Remember today's UAE team is the sequel of Saunier Duval rather than the continuation of Lampre!

Saunier Duval always has been like this. Especially at the 2007 Giro d'Italia with Simoni, Piepoli & Ricco following own ambitions! Even Mayo was allowed to win a stage for himself.

In so many ways

 

[tobydawq]

People are now just hating him for fun. Like, he's not good on the gravel. He got dropped in Clasica Jaen by everyone and their mothers. If you thought that Ayuso was good for this stage, you're absolutely insane. He was probably suffering all day because he's really bad at gravel.

And what was he doing on the Galibier, pray tell?

 

[scribers]

Is insubordination a sufficient reason for firing a rider?

Yes. Bruyneel has openly spoke about sending guys home and sending them packing

 

[balac]

And what was he doing on the Galibier, pray tell?

So, you admit that you were trolling thinking that he should have pulled today and talking about insubordination and stuff. Interesting.

Also, he pulled for 5 minutes on the Galibier. 3 more minutes than Adam Yates, btw.

 

[tobydawq]

So, you admit that you were trolling thinking that he should have pulled today and talking about insubordination and stuff. Interesting.

Also, he pulled for 5 minutes on the Galibier. 3 more minutes than Adam Yates, btw.

No, I certainly don't admit that. How did you get that conclusion from my post?

On the Galibier he evidently tried to save himself until Almeida humiliated him by calling him out. All reports have been that he doesn't care about Tadej and his battle for yellow, and everything we see helps to confirm those reports.

 

[skippo12]

People are now just hating him for fun. Like, he's not good on the gravel. He got dropped in Clasica Jaen by everyone and their mothers. If you thought that Ayuso was good for this stage, you're absolutely insane. He was probably suffering all day because he's really bad at gravel.

Must have beein my imagination when I saw him in front of two Bora riders. Trying to bridge back to the main group with Roglic in his wheel.

 

[scribers]

Must have beein my imagination when I saw him in front of two Bora riders. Trying to bridge back to the main group with Roglic in his wheel.

Did this happen? It was all so crazy I need Chris Horner to completely break down all video footage for me

 

[Cookster15]

All reports have been that he doesn't care about Tadej and his battle for yellow

This is quite delusional if true. Maybe he has a strong person in his ear (father?) because knowing what the sport of cycling now knows about Pog, and knowing how young Ayuso is he otherwise seems the epitome of young and stupid. But this should be a matter for the UAE team bosses to sort out?

 

[Peter von]

This is quite delusional if true. Maybe he has a strong person in his ear (father?) because knowing what the sport of cycling now knows about Pog, and knowing how young Ayuso is he otherwise seems the epitome of young and stupid. But this should be a matter for the UAE team bosses to sort out?

I guess they are the kind of people that think internal competition is the only way to keep your people at their best.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Must have beein my imagination when I saw him in front of two Bora riders. Trying to bridge back to the main group with Roglic in his wheel.

Did he really do that? I didn't see that but I must have just missed it then.

 

[Cookster15]

I guess they are the kind of people that think internal competition is the only way to keep your people at their best.

Well if that is UAE’s strategy it doesn’t make any logical sense. UAE have had their backsides handed to them by Visma two successive years at the Tour. The reason for that was Visma had a super strong leader and a team all working for that leader when it counted. So Vingegaard could deliver when it really mattered.

Pogacar is trying to do what nobody hasn’t achieved in 26 years. Ayuso has shown nothing to suggest he can’t wait at his young age.

The closest similarity to Alison is can think of is Andy Schleck. Andy came 2nd at the Giro when he was only 22. But Andy didn’t get greedy with ambition, he knew his time would come. Otherwise I doubt Carlos Sastre would have won the 2008 Tour.

And I don’t think anyone can question Pogacar’s motivation. He doesn’t need competition from within his own team he has plenty at Visma.

 

[Elos Anjos]

More or less gifted rider but no generational talent but he walks like he is the new Pogacar. With some luck he can win a GT, I hope he will never accomplish much. Every rider is not blamable for being born with more or less genetic prowess but character is something you are responsible for. And Ayuso just sucks at that departament.

 

[Peter von]

Well if that is UAE’s strategy it doesn’t make any logical sense. UAE have had their backsides handed to them by Visma two successive years at the Tour. The reason for that was Visma had a super strong leader and a team all working for that leader when it counted. So Vingegaard could deliver when it really mattered.

Pogacar is trying to do what nobody hasn’t achieved in 26 years. Ayuso has shown nothing to suggest he can’t wait at his young age.

The closest similarity to Alison is can think of is Andy Schleck. Andy came 2nd at the Giro when he was only 22. But Andy didn’t get greedy with ambition, he knew his time would come. Otherwise I doubt Carlos Sastre would have won the 2008 Tour.

And I don’t think anyone can question Pogacar’s motivation. He doesn’t need competition from within his own team he has plenty at Visma.

Or maybe management is just too conflict averse to try and handle affairs .

 

[noob]

Properly dropped

 

[Peyroteo94]

Too overrated.

 

[Didinho]

Dropped to go in the breakaway and get yellow in week 3. Masterclass today.