Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[CyclistAbi]

"We will be consistent, he has earned it" - Matxín confirms Isaac Del Toro may be protected on final Giro week

In the middle of the rest day before the decisive week of the Giro d'Italia 2025, UAE has returned to attend the media in a press conference. CiclismoAlDía and CyclingUpToDate were present at the stat...

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Looks like Ayuso is now out of the leadership position, starting week three.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Abandoned by the team.

 

[Unchained]

Abandoned by the team.

Hardly abandoned, he is super close with Yates, who will have to cover anything aggressive, not only for UAE but down in GC .
Ayuso on the mend was likely part of the conversation about strategy. Del Toro showed he has gas in the tank, doing his own work for hard jumps by Carapaz ,Gee, ,Bernal were Del Toro ,alone shut each down. Clearly Del Toro is strong and not showing signs that he is listless or getting stale going into week 3.
Great management, public relations and team message, to put speculation to bed. Deserving Del Toro gets the nod.

 

[CyclistAbi]

One has to understand Ayuso situation, he was promised leadership and although still in contention, lost that leadership position before starting the decisive week.

 

[P4rthen0n]

"We will be consistent, he has earned it" - Matxín confirms Isaac Del Toro may be protected on final Giro week

In the middle of the rest day before the decisive week of the Giro d'Italia 2025, UAE has returned to attend the media in a press conference. CiclismoAlDía and CyclingUpToDate were present at the stat...

cyclinguptodate.com

Looks like Ayuso is now out of the leadership position, starting week three.

Too soon to tell.
Last time the cameras were on, we saw UAE chasing after Del Toro. And nobody from UAE closed down attacks, only Del Toro did.
I'll believe it when I see evidence of changes.

Nonetheless Ayuso is still in great position GC wise. He came into the Giro as one of the leaders and still deserves to be protected for as long as he has a real shot at winning the whole thing.

 

[Links2003]

I still don't believe that del Toro alone should be the leader. The team has acted differently in the last few days. Otherwise he would already be much further ahead. Maybe that's just a distraction. We'll see.

 

[noob]

Just heard Brunyel saying Ayuso knee stitches were undone again after the time trial.

Explains why his speed went down.

 

[Sciatic]

Just heard Brunyel saying Ayuso knee stitches were undone again after the time trial.

Explains why his speed went down.

Definitely less aero with ragged pieces of skin flopping about!

 

[noob]

Definitely less aero with ragged pieces of skin flopping about!

I'm thankful for the fact that my inner picture reference will be theater fake skin, not the real deal 🤣🤣🤣

 

[CyclistAbi]

Pogi won and Ayuso staying at UAE as dom for now.

 

[Netserk]

I was unsure Sunday, but after today it is clear that he never recovered (fully) from injuring his knee on the gravel.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Stagnation or no stagnation, he has had impressively bad luck in his GTs. Covid in the 2022 Vuelta, completely messed up season hindering him in the 2023 Vuelta, Covid again in last year's Tour and now a knee injury. That's four from four GTs where he has been prevented from performing at 100%. If he was more likeable (and preferably not on UAE) it would have made him a Landa-esque popular underdog.

 

[noob]

Benji and Broe saying Ayuso isn't like he's portrayed. I wait for an interview with him just like the one with Remco to fix his reputation.

 

[Rackham]

Benji and Broe saying Ayuso isn't like he's portrayed. I wait for an interview with him just like the one with Remco to fix his reputation.

If I speak....

Actually I will speak. Ayuso was given a 'bad guy' reputation when Pogi diehards decided anything less than total fealty to his lordship Pogi the magnificent was unacceptable.

I'm totally ambivalent on the question because let's face facts here i.e. who are we kidding? Pog hardly needed his help.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Yeah, this was his penance, his offence wasn't worse. And obviously he is riding injured so chapeau to at least trying. Inclusion of mini Strade Bianche unfortunately decimated the GC field this year, to oblivion. Half a year of preparation down the drain for many GC riders, before it even started.

 

[Didinho]

I felt he was ready this year to win his first GT, this Giro was a good opportunity. Still believe he will get one.

Was he planned for the Vuelta? Otherwise another year with bad luck in his GT.

 

[noob]

If I speak....

Actually I will speak. Ayuso was given a 'bad guy' reputation when Pogi diehards decided anything less than total fealty to his lordship Pogi the magnificent was unacceptable.

I'm totally ambivalent on the question because let's face facts here i.e. who are we kidding? Pog hardly needed his help.

I'm still gonna say Broe is the one who got Ayuso this reputation. Years before tdf 2024 by saying Ayuso refuses to ride for anyone and just how much he loves Ayuso for it. But now even he said it would look better if Ayuso stayed as a domestique for Del Toro bc his reputation is absolutely horrible right now. Ayuso is but a kid. I feel bad for him for sure.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Over-analysis of a minor incident by weird parasocial fans, nothing new.

However it was quite funny when he got dropped, sorry.

 

[noob]

Over-analysis of a minor incident by weird parasocial fans, nothing new.

However it was quite funny when he got dropped.

If you call Broe a parasocial fan yes, but he's a DS of Visma

 

[Red Rick]

If I speak....

Actually I will speak. Ayuso was given a 'bad guy' reputation when Pogi diehards decided anything less than total fealty to his lordship Pogi the magnificent was unacceptable.

I'm totally ambivalent on the question because let's face facts here i.e. who are we kidding? Pog hardly needed his help.

Literally most of it was speculation based on nothing, then Mou happened.

All that happened on the road was like 1 case of not pulling when he was at the back of the group and Almeida is creating drama.

 

[Tim Cahill]

If you call Broe a parasocial fan yes, but he's a DS of Visma

It wasn't because of Patrick, you have to understand 90% of the time he's just taking the piss. A lot of Australian cricket fans have a specific sense of humour based on smack talk, they aren't serious and neither is he, you just have to give it back to them. Ayuso hate comes from other quarters.

 

[AmRacer]

Yeah, this was his penance, his offence wasn't worse. And obviously he is riding injured so chapeau to at least trying. Inclusion of mini Strade Bianche unfortunately decimated the GC field this year, to oblivion. Half a year of preparation down the drain for many GC riders, before it even started.

They should have preped better for the mini SB stage.

 

[bNator]

If I speak....

Actually I will speak. Ayuso was given a 'bad guy' reputation when Pogi diehards decided anything less than total fealty to his lordship Pogi the magnificent was unacceptable.

I'm totally ambivalent on the question because let's face facts here i.e. who are we kidding? Pog hardly needed his help.

In retrospect maybe. But at the time, it was very much going to be another epic battle with Vinge, the one Pog lost two consecutive times. Until stage 14, the Tour still seemed very open with Vingegaard just arriving to his supposedly favourable terrain…

 

[CyclistAbi]

They should have preped better for the mini SB stage.

You can't, that is on why it is there for, more or less a guarantee to affect GC, on top of that it's not like UAE wasn't lucky with del Toro.

 

[AmRacer]

You can't, that is on why it is there for, more or less a guarantee to affect GC, on top of that it's not like UAE wasn't lucky with del Toro.

Could've raced SB