Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[pastronef]

Actually, I don't like Ayuso because of João and not because of Pogacar.

yes I meant fan of the Pog side. I also didn't like how he didn't help on the Galibier. the amount of *** and insults and vitriol and hate made be became immediately his fan. I so want him to succeed but it will be very difficult

 

[P4rthen0n]

The best thing for everyone is for him to move to another team.

Although I've always thought Ayuso doesn't have much reason to be unhappy. He's led a GT every year, except last year because of his insistence on the Tour de France.

Not even Pogacar did two GTs at that age.

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UAE has plenty of good up and coming young riders.
Ayuso and Del Toro mainly, but also Pablo Torres is a great prospect.
Even if they think Ayuso has the higher ceiling of them all, is all this noise and headache worth it? It's not like they desperately need Ayuso to be a competitive team in GC, because they have Pogacar and also Almeida.

Movistar would be a good fit for Ayuso.

 

[Rou]

Ayuso was scheduled for Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre with del Toro and he didn't go.
Ayuso was scheduled for Prueba Villafranca with del Toro again and he is now removed also.
Obviously there are problems in UAE with Ayuso.
Time to pack it up and find a better place.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Ayuso was scheduled for Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre with del Toro and he didn't go.
Ayuso was scheduled for Prueba Villafranca with del Toro again and he is now removed also.
Obviously there are problems in UAE with Ayuso.
Time to pack it up and find a better place.

I notice this too. He probably wanted to race the Vuelta after Giro's fiasco but UAE don't allow him to race it.

 

[Offline]

Can't see any buying him out... Who want to spend 2-3 mil on him..
For me he is not the next hot thing anymore.
Maybe a swap deal?

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Perhaps someone will set up a new team and build it around him, Team Ayuso sounds good.

 

[Rou]

Can't see any buying him out... Who want to spend 2-3 mil on him..
For me he is not the next hot thing anymore.
Maybe a swap deal?

Swap him for Jorgenson from Rabobank.
Matteo pulling like a horse for Tadej and Ayuso and Jonas attacking Pog.
Nice Hollywood movie, eh?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Can't see any buying him out... Who want to spend 2-3 mil on him..
For me he is not the next hot thing anymore.
Maybe a swap deal?

A lot of teams to be honest. Ineos have Rodríguez for example and he is not better than Ayuso. Redbull would be a great team too.
Lower teams like Movistar would pay him those 2 or 3 millions for sure.

 

[Offline]

A lot of teams to be honest. Ineos have Rodríguez for example and he is not better than Ayuso. Redbull would be a great team too.
Lower teams like Movistar would pay him those 2 or 3 millions for sure.

Don't see it. bc why didn't they buy this winter than? Nothing new that Ayuso isn't happy

 

[carolina]

Don't see it. bc why didn't they buy this winter than? Nothing new that Ayuso isn't happy

He was given Giro leadership this year, he had no motive to leave.

If he does want to leave, I hope UAE doens't make it dificult for him and ask for a lot of money.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He was given Giro leadership this year, he had no motive to leave.

If he does want to leave, I hope UAE doens't make it dificult for him and ask for a lot of money.

It's the third year he doesn't perform

 

[Psycat]

A lot of teams to be honest. Ineos have Rodríguez for example and he is not better than Ayuso. Redbull would be a great team too.
Lower teams like Movistar would pay him those 2 or 3 millions for sure.

To me everything points towards Lipowitz being more of a GC contender than Ayuso so not so sure they are interested(they probably wan't bigger fish, ie Remco), Movistar? Maybe I suppose but in their position I would likely try to recruit cyclists capable of winning stages instead but that's just me.

 

[Squire]

To me everything points towards Lipowitz being more of a GC contender than Ayuso so not so sure they are interested(they probably wan't bigger fish, ie Remco), Movistar? Maybe I suppose but in their position I would likely try to recruit cyclists capable of winning stages instead but that's just me.

'Cyclists capable of winning stages' as opposed to Ayuso who can win everything from stage races, road stages, TTs, one-day races?

 

[Psycat]

'Cyclists capable of winning stages' as opposed to Ayuso who can win everything from stage races, road stages, TTs, one-day races?

I suppose you are right but I have the impression that he want's to focus on GT:s(maybe I am wrong) and I just don't buy it, also I think they could get like 3 cyclists capable of winning stages for the same price, and probably less drama aswell.

Maybe unfair but the guy just gives off bad vibes and seems to be anything but a team player to me.

Then again I am not the one recruiting cyclists for teams and wouldn't be that, albeit a little, surprised if he ended up in Movistar.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Dodging Scaroni again

 

[Offline]

Can see Movistar, Astana and Inoes as the options... But not sure they will pay what UAE wants... And only Inoes have riders UAE would be interested in for swap

 

[P4rthen0n]

To me everything points towards Lipowitz being more of a GC contender than Ayuso so not so sure they are interested(they probably wan't bigger fish, ie Remco), Movistar? Maybe I suppose but in their position I would likely try to recruit cyclists capable of winning stages instead but that's just me.

Why? Ayuso did better than Lipowitz and he's 2 years younger, in both GT and 1 week races.
Ayuso is 22. Are there any other 22 year olds with a better record than Ayuso?
Or even 23 or 24 year old?
I think you probably you have to go up 25 (Remco) to find someone with a better record.

 

[Lepp89]

I think the best option for Juan could be Lidl Trek, they don’t have that kind of rider. But I think they decided to target just sprints and classics.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Hahahaha, Ayuso throwing a hissy fit because the directors doesn't want to give him sole GC leader position in a grand tour, only co-leader.

 

[Cycling111]

It seems Ayuso has achieved his purpose of being taken to the Vuelta instead of Pogacar.

This whole team change has been a way to put pressure UAE, and they'll have convinced Pogacar not to go this year. A mistake.

 

[noob]

It seems Ayuso has achieved his purpose of being taken to the Vuelta instead of Pogacar.

This whole team change has been a way to put pressure UAE, and they'll have convinced Pogacar not to go this year. A mistake.

What now? Is Ayuso doing vuelta? The likely reason should be Almeida prep won't be ideal after that crash?

 

[SafeBet]

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Almeida will be the main leader...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Well, this is the most sensible thing to do, Pog can't do another GT. UAE guys will make sure to make it as tough as possible for Jonas with Ayuso and Almedia both being capable of winning the race.

 

[pastronef]

well it says a lot that for Ayuso to ride Vuelta he needs Pog to stay home. his future in that team is unsure at best

 

[Tim Cahill]

UAE ideal team for La Vuelta

Ayuso
Del Toro
Almeida
Jan Christen
Soler
Morgado
Mcnulty
Vine