Juan Ayuso discussion thread

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He's really going all out for the team and not himself today!
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Beautiful win. Really strong from the beginning today. Get some rest days in the peloton and go for it again. He will be there when Almeida needs him.

Spoiler alert for stage 7 in the Tour next year.
Won stage 7 in the Giro.
Won stage 7 in the Vuelta.
 
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Beautiful win. Really strong from the beginning today. Get some rest days in the peloton and go for it again. He will be there when Almeida needs him.

Spoiler alert for stage 7 in the Tour next year.
Won stage 7 in the Giro.
Won stage 7 in the Vuelta.
DNF to prepare WC.
 
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Ayuso needs to learn to battle through when he having a bad day, as you will usually have one in a GT or otherwise, his GC is going nowhere.
 
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He really is giving a well deserved finger to his team and teammates
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He's been a leader in GTs and several races. They couldn't give him more opportunities. He is the only cyclist who has never been a domestiquw on that team. Today they gave him preference over Jay Vine.

What's so bad about this? They granted all his wishes except for leading the Tour, which, as you can understand, is normal.

This victim narrative is ridiculous. He's been given every opportunity and facility. And these constant photos with Matxin are ridiculous. No one on the team has that kind of public support. Not even Pogacar is constantly receiving so many statements of support from the DS.

It would be interesting if you could describe those moments .

We can do a list with all the opportunities and support he received
 
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Mikkel Bjerg said to Danish television after today's stage that if Ayuso only thought he could perhaps finish 6th in GC, it was right for him to hunt stages instead. Still since he didn't even try yesterday he couldn't possibly know what his ceiling in this race was. If he actually had been able to finish 6th, which I very much doubt, it's pretty stupid to throw it away already in case other riders will be hit by bad luck later on.
 
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LOL

He's been a leader in GTs and several races. They couldn't give him more opportunities. He is the only cyclist who has never been a domestiquw on that team. Today they gave him preference over Jay Vine.

What's so bad about this? They granted all his wishes except for leading the Tour, which, as you can understand, is normal.

This victim narrative is ridiculous. He's been given every opportunity and facility. And these constant photos with Matxin are ridiculous. No one on the team has that kind of public support. Not even Pogacar is constantly receiving so many statements of support from the DS.

It would be interesting if you could describe those moments .

We can do a list with all the opportunities and support he received
They granted all his wishes that they were contractually obliged to give him. He’s an outsider in his team, I don’t expect him to perform to his fullest
 
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I felt sorry for Ayuso and I generally try to be a bit more level-headed towards him, but I think he tries in every possible way to prove me wrong.

Anyway, Almeida didn't really need his team in these stages, so the jury is still on, but I can totally see a situation where he is DNF or DNS before he's done a single pull.
 
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Probably at least 1000 posts on this forum dedicated to flaming riders chasing that 8th place instead of trying to win a stage, now Ayuso is getting torched for doing that exact thing.
Riders of what level?

Riders who have been begging to lead the Vuelta for two years?
Riders who say they want to be the best in the world?

Let's not confuse things. It's one thing to ask that of second-tier riders who aspire to finish ninth or tenth, and another thing to ask of a rider who was the third favorite for this Vuelta and who demands to be the GT leader for the general classification.
For a rider like that, it's a failure to get into Marco Frigo's group.
Marco Frigo will be required to fight for stages instead of finishing ninth without being on television; for Ayuso, it's a failure. Unless you don't see Ayuso as a GT contender and a candidate for the Big 6 anymore. For a Big 6 candidate, being a rival to Marco Frigo is a failure. The best have to be rivals of the best from the general classification.

If that's the opinion, then we assume Ayuso's level is far from sufficient to lead. We're putting him on the same level as Marco Frigo or riders like Einer Rubio, who finished top 10 in the Giro and was expected to forget about a discret GC and win a stage.

What Ayuso has done is the easy thing to do. Not being a rival to the best cyclists in the GC and become a rival to second level riders. It's easier to win a stage this way than in a head-to-head with Vingegaard and Ciccone.

It would be very easy for Pogacar, or Vingegaard, to win more stages if they were 20 minutes behind in the GC and not competing with the best. They could win against Marco Frigo in the breakaways, like Jay Vine. Even Jay Vine is being urged to join another team and fight for the GC, but not Ayuso. With that opinion, you're devaluing him, admitting that he's not one of the greats and doesn't have to have the urge to try to rival Vingegaard in this Vuelta, even if it's in a 2 vs 1 with Almeida.
When he doesn't want to work on a Tour for Pogacar or on this Vuelta for Almeida, he'll have to be reminded that he's a stage cyclist, inferior status to those who sacrifice for the GC.
 
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