Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[Cycling111]

In PCS, they've added Ayuso to Lombardia, and Guangtxi.

Didn't they say he wouldn't be racing with UAE anymore?

 

[YavorD]

In PCS, they've added Ayuso to Lombardia, and Guangtxi.

Didn't they say he wouldn't be racing with UAE anymore?

Well, they probably want to reach 100 wins. That's why. They've sending him to Guangtxi, hoping he can win 2 stages and the GC.

 

[postmanhat]

In PCS, they've added Ayuso to Lombardia, and Guangtxi.

Didn't they say he wouldn't be racing with UAE anymore?

He confirmed in the interview after The Europeans that it was his last race. Apparently, it had been an 'intense' season. Four one-day races, and a fairly serene Vuelta since May...

 

[Pantani_lives]

Well, they probably want to reach 100 wins. That's why. They've sending him to Guangtxi, hoping he can win 2 stages and the GC.

It would be funny if he lost on purpose in Guangxi, just to keep them from 100.

 

[noob]

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I read the original article the tweet quoted here

I am lost for words.

But if what he says is true...

 

[Lequack]

So Pogacar is only winning because he's actually trapped at UAE.

 

[HashRouge]

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I read the original article the tweet quoted here

I am lost for words.

But if what he says is true...

I dislike this team more and more. They have so many riders I like, I find myself very conflicted. I wish Pogacar would get himself clued up on what UAE is doing in Sudan and break his contract to go and ride for EF or someone like that.

Honestly, I know Ayuso gets a lot of hate on this forum, but frankly good for him.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

@noob Juanito keeps on delivering. I don't think it's the end. The team surely made some management mistakes regarding him but as for his teammates riding against him: for 4 years he hardly ever had to help Pog (so he was favoured in a way) and in the rest of their races usually there were co-leaders and no clear hierarchy (that's why there was some internal rivalry during races). It was the team's strategy and he can complain but thanks to it he had a shot at victory in almost all races he started.

 

[scribers]

When you’re the problem and unaware of it, of course you’re going to blame managment

 

[Low is rhe new high]

So Pogacar is only winning because he's actually trapped at UAE.

Or maybe he and his handler Gianetti has trapped the team and that is why he is winning.

 

[Cycling111]

When you’re the problem and unaware of it, of course you’re going to blame managment

+1000

How can a guy who, as a cadet, received help from Matxin so that his father would become the owner of that team complain about the management?

He's had Matxin's support since he was 15, and he's undoubtedly been one of the riders who has received the most support from the team. He hasn't accepted that there have been other cyclists as good, or even one much better, than him. That has been his problem.

A rider who joins the team with a previous relationship with one of the directors must have had every opportunity and facilities. The only thing he can hold against UAE is not having been the leader in the Tour, but nor would he have been at Visma, the reason is obvious. That's not a mistreated; it's a reality of having a superior teammate.

 

[Cassirer]

+1000

How can a guy who, as a cadet, received help from Matxin so that his father would become the owner of that team complain about the management?

He's had Matxin's support since he was 15, and he's undoubtedly been one of the riders who has received the most support from the team. He hasn't accepted that there have been other cyclists as good, or even one much better, than him. That has been his problem.

A rider who joins the team with a previous relationship with one of the directors must have had every opportunity and facilities. The only thing he can hold against UAE is not having been the leader in the Tour, but nor would he have been at Visma, the reason is obvious. That's not a mistreated; it's a reality of having a superior teammate.

New poll for pog fans: who triggers you the most? Ayuso, Remco, Jonas, Merckx, Vino? Ayuso by a landslide, I think.

 

[James M]

When you’re the problem and unaware of it, of course you’re going to blame managment

Ayuso seems like a nepo baby, where actions have no consequences, that + he's delusional, a hillarious cocktail. Poor lad is in for a very, very rude awakening next season.

 

[Berniece]

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I read the original article the tweet quoted here

I am lost for words.

But if what he says is true...

Doesn't surprise me that UAE is internally a mafia with their own omerta

 

[YavorD]

New poll for pog fans: who triggers you the most? Ayuso, Remco, Jonas, Merckx, Vino? Ayuso by a landslide, I think.

Roger de Vlaeminck deserves honourable mention here.

 

[James M]

Roger de Vlaeminck deserves honourable mention here.

The pinnacle of delulu and living in the past himself.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Don’t pretend you aren’t all enjoying this messy divorce, waking up in the early hours and running to your computer to check the latest Ayuso news.

Anyway, apparently Marc Hirschi said that Ayuso used to unplug the console on Fifa when he was losing, not making this up.

 

[SafeBet]

Don’t pretend you aren’t all enjoying this messy divorce, waking up in the early hours and running to your computer to check the latest Ayuso news.

Anyway, apparently Marc Hirschi said that Ayuso used to unplug the console on Fifa when he was losing, not making this up.

Source: I am Marc Hirschi.

 

[AmRacer]

Source: I am Marc Hirschi.

Is that a safe bet?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

New poll for pog fans: who triggers you the most? Ayuso, Remco, Jonas, Merckx, Vino? Ayuso by a landslide, I think.

From a secret source* I know that Juanito will replace Jorgenson as #1 on the Godfather's famous black list.



*I met Politt in a supermarket

 

[Tim Cahill]

Source: I am Marc Hirschi.

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[Unchained]

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I read the original article the tweet quoted here

I am lost for words.

But if what he says is true...

Super weird that Juan didn't include the other additions to his contract like washing and folding Isaac Del Toro's laundry, making sure Isaac's bed is made, slippers and fresh towels waiting as he exits the bath or shower. Juan responsible for ensuring that Del Toro has fresh cut flowers daily and Del Toro dog is walked, washed and brushed out. Ayuso was to wash, lubricate and check tire pressure on Del Toro's bicycle and remove the special seat cover for Isaac before he rides.
I think that I heard Ayuso needed to ride ahead and get a table for Isaac and friends to enjoy coffee, pastries and delicious mid, post ride chocolates.
This is not a kiss and tell story, Juan's feelings are hurt and he needs that victim feedback, so everyone knows all those mean people who work at the dictator factory are just not nice. I hope he gave the interview while holding a teddy bear, blanket and sippy cup. I always heard that a woman scorn thing, but apparently it's men too. Ayuso probably checks Del Toro fan club numbers social media hits ..alone in his room.
Ayuso spent a few years in Atlanta Georgia and Ayuso English is awesome.
Del Toro is just so so and he really struggles to find the words, so Just Ayuso is better than Isaac in that area..
So Team Trek thinks trashing old boss and team, instigating a feud is a good start for new beginning? Maybe Juan is right, maybe UAE needs some extra motivation..

 

[Cycling111]

Seeing Derek Gee's situation, I still wonder if they consider Ayuso the most mistreated cyclist in the peloton.

 

[scribers]

New poll for pog fans: who triggers you the most? Ayuso, Remco, Jonas, Merckx, Vino? Ayuso by a landslide, I think.

Jonas

 

[Cycling111]

Jonas

I don't agree. I have the feeling that in 2021, Pogacar got too comfortable. I'm not saying this because he lost afterward, but because he already won the Tour on Stage 8, winning by more than three minutes over the peloton at le Grand-Bronand. And his training routines, especially for the Tour, weren´t a bit serious.

Allan Peiper knew him best and already said something about this, and that he might have gone into Tokyo overconfident.
UAE wasn't an overly strong team either; they settled for him winning the race by just enough.
They signed Majka and little else.

Vingegaard, in the end, was an important part of his drive to push himself harder.
What would now be VDP, the training he does for the cobbles classics is to be able to beat him. I suppose beating someone like VDP on De Ronde was the impetus for him to go to Paris-Roubaix and believe he can do it