JV reaches out to anonymous critic.

[Anonymous]

Having courage is dependent on a public image?

You having to prove a point has overshadowed your thought processes.

Many anonymous people have courage. Many who'll come back in a google search don't.

YOU sound like the guy that wants an autograph from JV.

You were sucking his toes at the beginning of this thread. Then people called you on your bull****, and now you are the JV hater again.

Your choices were tough for you. Don't pretend to know how difficult his are. Talk about a blowhard...

 

[buckwheat]

I know bigger words than you do (and what is and is not important in the law) and somehow I am JV? Why not throw out the conservative "ivory tower" rhetoric?

Okay, if that is who you need me to be to justify your self image, have at it.

You insult EVERYBODY and come back with your thin skinned "putting people on your ingnore list" crap.

"I know bigger words than you do," good grief, are you serious?

You know what is important in the law?

I'm begging you, start parsing words, images, and the spirit of the law in front of a judge like that and you'll wind up in jail.

 

[Anonymous]

Having courage is dependent on a public image?

You having to prove a point has overshadowed your thought processes.

Many anonymous people have courage. Many who'll come back in a google search don't.

YOU sound like the guy that wants an autograph from JV.

As to walking in JV's shoes, if he can't stand the heat... well you know.

Mixed metaphors are not very good form dude.

 

[Anonymous]

You insult EVERYBODY and come back with your thin skinned "putting people on your ingnore list" crap.

"I know bigger words than you do," good grief, are you serious?

You know what is important in the law?

I'm begging you, start parsing words, images, and the spirit of the law in front of a judge like that and you'll wind up in jail.

How many times have you been in front of a judge as an attorney? Don't answer, I already know.

 

[buckwheat]

You were sucking his toes at the beginning of this thread. Then people called you on your bull****, and now you are the JV hater again.

Your choices were tough for you. Don't pretend to know how difficult his are. Talk about a blowhard...

Let me post your/JV's picture again and give you a crying towel.

What you call sucking his toes, I call hearing him out.

The spineless thing wasn't brought up by me and I made a mistake buying into it, although many commentators do use it in the MSM.

Wrong though.

I believe I have a few years on you and you know zero about choices I've made in my life, and where I've served.

 

[Anonymous]

You insult EVERYBODY and come back with your thin skinned "putting people on your ingnore list" crap.

"I know bigger words than you do," good grief, are you serious?

You know what is important in the law?

I'm begging you, start parsing words, images, and the spirit of the law in front of a judge like that and you'll wind up in jail.

Oh, and I put douchewhistles with little to no redeeming value on my ignore list. You bounce on and off because sometimes you are worth reading, and sometime you are like you are now, and well...

 

[buckwheat]

How many times have you been in front of a judge as an attorney? Don't answer, I already know.

Try it my friend. Try it and you'll be in jail. They love smart alecks.

 

[buckwheat]

Oh, and I put douchewhistles with little to no redeeming value on my ignore list. You bounce on and off because sometimes you are worth reading, and sometime you are like you are now, and well...

You're one big button..

 

[Anonymous]

Let me post your/JV's picture again and give you a crying towel.

What you call sucking his toes, I call hearing him out.

The spineless thing wasn't brought up by me and I made a mistake buying into it, although many commentators do use it in the MSM.

Wrong though.

I believe I have a few years on you and you know zero about choices I've made in my life, and where I've served.

And you know zero about the choices JV made, yet you feel warranted in telling him what to do. Keep digging man, it is funny to see someone making a bigger hole.

 

[buckwheat]

Mixed metaphors are not very good form dude.

 

[buckwheat]

And you know zero about the choices JV made, yet you feel warranted in telling him what to do. Keep digging man, it is funny to see someone making a bigger hole.

I do know about the choices he hasn't made....

Actually Geddy Lee would say he's made a choice......

 

[Anonymous]

Try it my friend. Try it and you'll be in jail. They love smart alecks.

It was a simple question. How many times have you been in front of a judge as an attorney?

Anyway, if you believe that words are not parsed in the law, you know literally next to nothing about the law. Its one of the first things they tell you in law school. Words have meaning.

 

[Anonymous]

I do know about the choices he hasn't made....

Actually Geddy Lee would say he's made a choice......

Oh dear goodness, and we know about the choices you haven't made too. There are literally an infinite number. What you don't know are the choices he has made, yet you continue your one man band concert, playing those cymbals betwixt your legs like hell.

 

[buckwheat]

It was a simple question. How many times have you been in front of a judge as an attorney?

Anyway, if you believe that words are not parsed in the law, you know literally next to nothing about the law. Its one of the first things they tell you in law school. Words have meaning.

You didn't know that words have meaning before you went to law school?

Glad to see you're soaking up all that meaning..

 

[Anonymous]

You didn't know that words have meaning before you went to law school?

Glad to see you're soaking up all that meaning..

You don't understand that now...

Hey, maybe you could answer my question now: How many times have you argued in front of a judge as an attorney? Its a simple question.

 

[buckwheat]

Mixed metaphors are not very good form dude.

It wasn't a mixed metaphor either.

A mixed metaphor is one that leaps from one identification to a second identification inconsistent with the first. Example: "If we can hit that bullseye then the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards

If I would have said, If you can't stand the heat, don't walk a mile in his shoes, that's a mixed metaphor.

So don't judge a man, if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen!

 

[buckwheat]

You don't understand that now...

Hey, maybe you could answer my question now: How many times have you argued in front of a judge as an attorney? Its a simple question.

You're tiring me! I'm putting you on my ignore list.

Plus, I have the good sense not to get cute with judges when they can see what's right in front of their face.

I'm sure you'll be a wise guy and test their patience with trivial nonsense.

 

[Anonymous]

You're tiring me! I'm putting you on my ignore list.

Plus, I have the good sense not to get cute with judges when they can see what's right in front of their face.

I'm sure you'll be a wise guy and test their patience with trivial nonsense.

How many cases have you tried in front of a judge as an attorney?

Simple question.

I wasn't being cute. I was pointing out the error of your words and you didn't like it. Now you have resorted to posting pictures of JV and other inane flourishes.

 

[Martin318is]

Yep - thats about as far as this one goes for now.

I am closing this thread while I go back and delete the last (roughly) 40 posts.

When I get a chance to re-open it, the next person that starts playing the man instead of the ball gets a suspension.

(to clarify for those that have not heard the expression before, I am saying that anyone that starts arguing directly at another member at a personal level instead of discussing the topic will get a suspension)

 

[Martin318is]

Okay, the thread is getting opened again now. Lets try and keep it at the level that it was at prior to about 2 hours ago please.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Hope I don't fuel anyone's ire here...

Like I said, I agree with the tenor of your post. I just think the decision is easier when we are not the ones making it. I also thought the whole "spineless" comment in the original thread, and buckwheat's flogging the monkey over and over was a bit too much. I am willing to bet in person, one of those guys or both would walk away with an autograph.

Although you agree with the tenor of my post, I'm not sure you understand the tenor of my post...

I am not asking anyone to make a decision.

I am trying to comprehend how JV can expect to be viewed as anti-doping by anyone when he hasn't lived up to what most people would see as an extremely crucial requirement - honest personal disclosure about doping.

Not naming names, not scr*wing his riders and sponsors, not utterly destroying his carreer. Strictly lending some honesty to a position that would find honesty to be requisite.

I don't give rat's *ss whether he does or not.

All I'm saying is that he fundamentally CANNOT be viewed as who he would like to be viewed as. After reading a few hundred posts, I think that's the point a lot of posters are trying to make.

I'm really too jaded to get rabid over it...

 

[Anonymous]

Hope I don't fuel anyone's ire here...



Although you agree with the tenor of my post, I'm not sure you understand the tenor of my post...

I am not asking anyone to make a decision.

I am trying to comprehend how JV can expect to be viewed as anti-doping by anyone when he hasn't lived up to what most people would see as an extremely crucial requirement - honest personal disclosure about doping.

Not naming names, not scr*wing his riders and sponsors, not utterly destroying his carreer. Strictly lending some honesty to a position that would find honesty to be requisite.

I don't give rat's *ss whether he does or not.

All I'm saying is that he fundamentally CANNOT be viewed as who he would like to be viewed as. After reading a few hundred posts, I think that's the point a lot of posters are trying to make.

I'm really too jaded to get rabid over it...

That's reasonable.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

That's reasonable.

Fair enough.

 

[buckwheat]

Nails it.

Hope I don't fuel anyone's ire here...



Although you agree with the tenor of my post, I'm not sure you understand the tenor of my post...

I am not asking anyone to make a decision.

I am trying to comprehend how JV can expect to be viewed as anti-doping by anyone when he hasn't lived up to what most people would see as an extremely crucial requirement - honest personal disclosure about doping.

Not naming names, not scr*wing his riders and sponsors, not utterly destroying his carreer. Strictly lending some honesty to a position that would find honesty to be requisite.


I don't give rat's *ss whether he does or not.

All I'm saying is that he fundamentally CANNOT be viewed as who he would like to be viewed as. After reading a few hundred posts, I think that's the point a lot of posters are trying to make.

I'm really too jaded to get rabid over it...

You really nailed it on a couple of different levels.. Thanks.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

You really nailed it on a couple of different levels.. Thanks.

Right on!____