JV talks, sort of

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roundabout said:
I think you are mistaking it with Avenir circa 2001.
nah, i know he and Matt Wilson had a good l'avenir in 2001.

this was about 2001, or 2002, he got a really good result for a classics/sprinter type in a hilly classics French race, in the pyrenees region.
 
blackcat said:
nah, i know he and Matt Wilson had a good l'avenir in 2001.

this was about 2001, or 2002, he got a really good result for a classics/sprinter type in a hilly classics French race, in the pyrenees region.

He was 9th in the Trophy des Grimpeurs in 2001 but that takes place North of Paris and despite the name is more of a puncheurs circuit. Still rated as one of the toughest French one day races tho. That would be a slightly unusual result for a pure sprinter(Cav/Cipo) but not so much for a more all-rounded sprinter.

Other than that, stage wins in Midi-Libere or Route du Sud are the only other possibilities.
 
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pmcg76 said:
He was 9th in the Trophy des Grimpeurs in 2001 but that takes place North of Paris and despite the name is more of a puncheurs circuit. Still rated as one of the toughest French one day races tho. That would be a slightly unusual result for a pure sprinter(Cav/Cipo) but not so much for a more all-rounded sprinter.

Other than that, stage wins in Midi-Libere or Route du Sud are the only other possibilities.
yep. I was conflating it with that race. thanks pmcg
 
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Can we ask Tyler Hamilton the expert in chimeras.

Is Wes Anderson JV's chimera, or is JV Wes Anderson's doppelganger?

crappy art design in hipster movies is to knicks n bibshorts and uniforms in argyle in aigle
hipsters can be insufferable. doubly so middle aged hipsters. its even worse than a mid life crisis and a sports car and a mistress (podium girl)
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http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/nuyens_garmin_has_given_me_a_snap/

Nuyens: Garmin has slapped me in my face



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„I don't like to throw mud at anyone, but what I experienced during my last two seasons was enough,” Nuyens told De Standaard.

„When my heart problems were confirmed last year, I found out that [they] had already noticed some irregularities in my heartbeat in the US, but blamed the equipment for it. In a period when I was undergoing my heart surgery, no one from the team was interested in learning about my condition. The first phone call I received was to ask me if I could arrange myself tickets to Tomorrowland. Garmin has slapped me in my face.”
 
18-Valve. (pithy) said:
http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/nuyens_garmin_has_given_me_a_snap/

Nuyens: Garmin has slapped me in my face



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„I don't like to throw mud at anyone, but what I experienced during my last two seasons was enough,” Nuyens told De Standaard.

„When my heart problems were confirmed last year, I found out that [they] had already noticed some irregularities in my heartbeat in the US, but blamed the equipment for it. In a period when I was undergoing my heart surgery, no one from the team was interested in learning about my condition. The first phone call I received was to ask me if I could arrange myself tickets to Tomorrowland. Garmin has slapped me in my face.”

That's terrible!
I guess many riders feel sore when their careers come to an early unplanned end, and didn't Armstrong and Millar have similar stories about teams leaving them high and dry when they had health problems?
But it's the apparent lack of action when a heart anomaly is detected that worries me most.....so much for teams rigorous reliable testing regimes!
 
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blackcat said:
nah, i know he and Matt Wilson had a good l'avenir in 2001.

this was about 2001, or 2002, he got a really good result for a classics/sprinter type in a hilly classics French race, in the pyrenees region.

a hilly classics race in the pyrenees? oh boy :eek: :rolleyes:
 
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18-Valve. (pithy) said:
http://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/nuyens_garmin_has_given_me_a_snap/

Nuyens: Garmin has slapped me in my face



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I don't like to throw mud at anyone, but what I experienced during my last two seasons was enough,” Nuyens told De Standaard.

„When my heart problems were confirmed last year, I found out that [they] had already noticed some irregularities in my heartbeat in the US, but blamed the equipment for it. In a period when I was undergoing my heart surgery, no one from the team was interested in learning about my condition. The first phone call I received was to ask me if I could arrange myself tickets to Tomorrowland. Garmin has slapped me in my face.”

which means ok hold on now I'm going to throw mud at someone. nuyens was a horrible pro and a whiny b*** rider. good riddance
 
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coinneach said:
That's terrible!
I guess many riders feel sore when their careers come to an early unplanned end, and didn't Armstrong and Millar have similar stories about teams leaving them high and dry when they had health problems?
But it's the apparent lack of action when a heart anomaly is detected that worries me most.....so much for teams rigorous reliable testing regimes!

I guess many feel sore when their team doctors notice health problems and ignore them.

Garmin mantra 'blame it on machine calibration errors'....
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
which means ok hold on now I'm going to throw mud at someone. nuyens was a horrible pro and a whiny b*** rider. good riddance

It isn't throwing mud if they ignored his heart anomaly readings now is it.

You are a great pro Ryo, the best.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
a hilly classics race in the pyrenees? oh boy :eek: :rolleyes:
14 years ago, a Coup de France race, trophee grimpeurs, and I conflated it. so sue me. Cookie is still the boss and you cant take that away from him.
 
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Benotti69 said:
I guess many feel sore when their team doctors notice health problems and ignore them.

Garmin mantra 'blame it on machine calibration errors'....
thats MCE.

we already have an acronym for it in The Clinic.

we arent anything if we arent willing to help out JV
 
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coinneach said:
That's terrible!
I guess many riders feel sore when their careers come to an early unplanned end, and didn't Armstrong and Millar have similar stories about teams leaving them high and dry when they had health problems?
But it's the apparent lack of action when a heart anomaly is detected that worries me most.....so much for teams rigorous reliable testing regimes!
actually, Armstrong never even did a medical test with Cofidis, he had not passed the medical test when he was diagnosed, but he still wanted the 2 million in 1996 money, paid to him.

they paid him 100% first year, and 50% second year. When the contract would have be null and void if he had to pass the health tests to make the contract valid. So Cofidis went over and above what they were legally entitled to, and even over and above what they were morally and ethically bound to also.