JV talks, sort of

[the sceptic]

JV going off the deep end with this Oleg love on twitter.

Dedicating his life to anti doping, but not a single word on the astana positives

 

[sniper]

jonathan splashing cash

Jonathan VaughtersVerified account ‏@Vaughters

My first unassisted landing in flight school today. Only used 1 wheel and 3 bounces to get 'er down.

 

[Benotti69]

JV going off the deep end with this Oleg love on twitter.

Dedicating his life to anti doping, but not a single word on the astana positives

Getting an MBA has taught JV that the little fish swim to the big fish......JV is swimming hard to get onto Oleg's back....

 

[Jeremiah]

btw

Getting an MBA has taught JV that the little fish swim to the big fish......JV is swimming hard to get onto Oleg's back....

Has JV ever been banned? Just asking.....

 

[Benotti69]

Has JV ever been banned? Just asking.....

Not sure, he has his abusive posts edited by mods.

 

[DirtyWorks]

JV going off the deep end with this Oleg love on twitter.

Dedicating his life to anti doping, but not a single word on the astana positives

He got a promotion at the UCI by being blessed with the remnants of Cannondale. He's not an edge case at the UCI.

IMO, it's a smart move by the UCI. JV has the best message out there.

 

[Benotti69]

He got a promotion at the UCI by being blessed with the remnants of Cannondale. He's not an edge case at the UCI.

IMO, it's a smart move by the UCI. JV has the best message out there.

Only to those stupid enough not to question what they are told. Most sports fans, in fact most humans............

 

[Benotti69]

JV thinks it would be awesome if the mafia fixed this years TdF so Nibali won in order to bet on Nibali and win big.

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/523102885811593217

It also what JV thought of, the mafia, when Pantani got kicked off the Giro in 99.

 

[roundabout]

He is probably not 100% serious, but still manages to come across as a ****.

The first thing he thought back then. What a load of ****.

 

[westerner]

Getting an MBA has taught JV that the little fish swim to the big fish......JV is swimming hard to get onto Oleg's back....

Though JV is no sucker. He's navigated the shark filled waters pretty well. Lots say dopers like Riis and Vino should not be in the sport, but JV and his PR message is fine.

 

[Digger]

JV's bromance with Oleg is awesome.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I have a real question for Saint Jonathan but it looks like this Elvis has left the building.

I will twotter him on the subject.

 

[sniper]

Keep selling cookies, JV.

The decision was that my values were either from a blood transfusion or blood boosting agent during the Tour of Britain. Now during that race I’m getting **** tested every day I’m in yellow. That’s about four days. I’m not going positive but their reasoning for that was because the Tour of Britain tests weren’t screening for EPO. Well in my mind that’s pathetic. The only things they should be screening for are things like EPO. What are they testing for? Amphetamines? We’re not in the 1960s or 1970s.

There was also no target testing. My next test was maybe 10 weeks later.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/an-exclusive-interview-with-jonathan-tiernan-locke

 

[sniper]

Keep selling cookies, JV.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/an-exclusive-interview-with-jonathan-tiernan-locke

so massive ineffectual testing, right, in 2012...

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Keep selling cookies, JV.


http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/an-exclusive-interview-with-jonathan-tiernan-locke

What does this have to do with JV? Can you fill in the blanks for me please?

 

[sniper]

What does this have to do with JV? Can you fill in the blanks for me please?

I think JTL quite concisely summarizes how flawed testing in cycling still is and thus how empty JV's claims of cleaner cycling are.
plus, if the testing was so massively flawed in 2012, that doesn't reflect well on Hesjedal's Giro win. Not that that's anything new for anybody with half a brain, but still.

 

[hrotha]

JTL is pretty much saying only EPO and blood doping have an effect, at a time when we might be seeing other products taking over as the PED of choice, and you're taking his word for it just to get at JV? Seriously?

 

[sniper]

JTL is pretty much saying only EPO and blood doping have an effect, at a time when we might be seeing other products taking over as the PED of choice, and you're taking his word for it just to get at JV? Seriously?

i see your point, and it's valid, though it doesn't make CleanER Cycling less of a joke.
I'm not trying to get at JV just for the sake of it. Yes, he ranks high in terms of hypocricy. And yes, I do think that there is ample evidence out there of how flawed and partially corrupt the testing system is and can be, and JTL's case adds to that.
We have no proof whatsoever that Hesjedal's Giro win was a clean win.
JV's main argument is/has been that cycling got cleaner because of progress in testing.

But fair enough, the JTL posts were probably ill-placed in this thread.

 

[the sceptic]

I would be more interested in hearing what JV thinks about one of his young guys going to hang out with the usps dopers

 

[Benotti69]

Hey JV, did you pay your riders for the 6 months that they were suspended (inc Hesjedal)?

 

[westerner]

Why not pay Ryder those 6 mo? Its not like he was ever suspended or anything. Name may have popped up at USADA, the Canadian authorities may have delayed interviewing him until the infraction was outside the SOL. The authorities won't tell us what questions were asked or answered. We just need to trust USADA, CCES and JV the athletes were all fully truthful in private. So what if a question was asked like "Ryder, did you do this terrible thing over 8 years ago?", the answer was yep, and no more questions were asked. Can't see why to dock any of the Giro champs pay for that?

 

[Benotti69]

Why not pay Ryder those 6 mo? Its not like he was ever suspended or anything. Name may have popped up at USADA, the Canadian authorities may have delayed interviewing him until the infraction was outside the SOL. The authorities won't tell us what questions were asked or answered. We just need to trust USADA, CCES and JV the athletes were all fully truthful in private. So what if a question was asked like "Ryder, did you do this terrible thing over 8 years ago?", the answer was yep, and no more questions were asked. Can't see why to dock any of the Giro champs pay for that?

6 months ban over winter for doping and getting paid is a holiday.

I dont believe Hesjedal's doping stopped with USPS. He rode for Phonak, that jucied to the heavens team, never mind winning a GT! So getting paid while supposedly being banned is hardly a punishment.

I dont trust USADA, CCES or JV.

 

[Digger]

If they were paid, that was some deal. Six month paid holiday in winter for years of doping - don't dope kids!

 

[westerner]

6 months ban over winter for doping and getting paid is a holiday.

I dont believe Hesjedal's doping stopped with USPS. He rode for Phonak, that jucied to the heavens team, never mind winning a GT! So getting paid while supposedly being banned is hardly a punishment.

I dont trust USADA, CCES or JV.

B69, I should have ended my previous post with a

 

[Dear Wiggo]

B69, I should have ended my previous post with a

It helps. I picked up a slight undertone of sarcasm but it was tres subtle ;-)