sniper said:
Benotti69 said:
Jonathan Vaughters @Vaughters · May 27
Try this one on: w 6 rider teams - are able to participate in more races, globally. instead of reducing costs, u increase value for sponsor
Hay JV how about getting rid of the doping and doping enablers and former dopers so when a sponsor puts money into the sport they dont get shat on???
All this talk of 'fixing' the sport for the sponsors but not fixing the cheating......that is really gonna work.
Congrats on Ryder in the 3rd week of a GT catching Contador on a climb. Clean riding at its best.
Doping never went away.
good spot. the hypocrisy is epic.
Vaughters pretending to be some major clean cycling reformer will go down in the history books as one of the most blatant lies ever sold to the public.
Not sure why there aren't more people in the Clinic holding him to account for his pro-active lying (amongst others here on this very forum), demonstrable lies about clean cycling, the passport, calibration errors, not to mention his covering for Sky.
The whole "new clean generation" and "now you can win clean" talk owes its momentum to JV.
He played it well though. Coming in here was a smart move, caused several long-term posters to give him the benefit of the doubt, and the press was all like "wow, he's engaging with the fans on an internet doping forum".
Rider is an endurance rider, an amazing rider, and of course is a better rider for a 3rd week than Contador, specially in stages as today, long. And we will see how Hesjedal still treat the podium. I predicted that before this Giro in this forum,a s the same way i said hesjedal could won the Giro the year he won in an spanish forum.
You can think what you want, I want to tell the truth.
In the year previous to his Giro win, he was one of the best at the end of the Tour, he was just behind Contador, andy and Purito on Tourmalet stage, the only one for endurance riders of that Tour, the last one, with some climbs, quite long and a hard and long finish. He was very strong as well in the cobblestone stage. But that was in the transitional era, and Contador and Andy werent totally clean riders. Contador was ban for that Tour positive.
One year later he managed to win the Giro. They dont put time on him as Astana did this year the first week, they forgive him, and at the end he was one of the best on the mountains, and he had the ITT, where is is better than Purito.
He is not a very strong rider with hot, he isbetter with rain and cold...that was bad for him in some races, but when he has been good, he has show his strenth and his endurace in the clean era. He was key rider in the victories of Dan Martin in la Volta and Lieje, more than key, half the victory is for him. He crashed last Vuelta, but he managed to win in la Camperona, and he was almost with Quintana in the Giro in the best stage of the colombian last year. and quintana is a better climber than Contador, he wanst at his best 2014 Tirreno, but this year he beat Contador (none at his best).
You can go on with your logics of the past, but reallity is another one. and it is not only that reallity make sense, it is that your logics has no sense when you look at Mortirolo times records climbing, or when you look at Heutacam, Alp d huez.. you can live in the fantasy Pantani was a super rider, and for that his times are much better... or you can assume reality, although would be less funny for you, of course.
I think that is useless to be here trying to argue with some of you, and I think that JV or any other people that know well how is today cycling are going to lose his time in that, but, as I thought as you in the past, maybe is not ueless for everybody, and I have enought time to writte.
As Landa is not allowed to attack, O hope today Hesjedal put 5 minutes on Contador and get close to the podium.
amd that would be a proof of cleanliness, of course. (not with your logic, that is wrong from the begining)