Kimmage on Wiggins, Sky

[The Hitch]

Personal opinions aside, I felt the need to applaud Froome for even taking this interview.

Credit where it's due.

eh hes clearing up his weak spots. Trying to set the record straight when it's all over the place. Don't for a moment think he gets nothing out of it. Sky have made it clear they would never do anything if they didn't get something out of it.

 

[bigcog]

Personal opinions aside, I felt the need to applaud Froome for even taking this interview.

Credit where it's due.

Indeed, can you imagine Contador or for that matter Wiggins doing it ?

 

[The Hitch]

Chris and Michelle were all over the map in that interview. For example:

- Basso "betrayed" Froome with his doping, but is partying it up with Vinokourov. No explanation for that contradiction, but lots of fancy footwork and deflection.

- Won't define his personal ethics and how that related to cheating, but skirts the issue by talking about paracetamol and espresso.

- Vilifies Riis early in the interview, but then admits he, ummm, yeah met with Riis to discuss a contract. But that was uhh... (Michelle interjects) Bargaining chip! Yeah, that's it!

- Bilharzia was super advanced. No it wasn't. Yes it was. No it wasn't. Yeah, but it messed up your hematocrit. Blood profile is fine though... Chris and Michelle at their finest.

- Anyways, that's all cleared up and Madone! Did that faster than Lance. Perfectly normal. VO2max? What's that? Totally irrelevant and you should be ashamed for asking. Here's some power profiles from 2012.

Utterly and totally ridiculous.

John Swanson

Did L.A. really say he climbed Madone after 5 hours?

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

pk: The admission that you have set a faster time than armstrong on the col de la madone set off a few alarms. But that’s the climate, isn’t it?

Cf: Yeah, i mean i can’t give a reason as to why i go faster than some of those guys, i can’t. I just know that i do my training and . . .

Mc: Armstrong is not built like a climber for starters. He was never a climber.

Cf: (laughs) let’s not go there.

fair play to pk if he managed to keep a straight face through this entire interview

.

 

[elduggo]

Indeed, can you imagine Contador or for that matter Wiggins doing it ?

well if they did I can't imagine they'd have their wives/girlfriends with them

 

[mewmewmew13]

That is awesome

unreal..

lol "NO you did NOT"

 

[elduggo]

the biggest thing this interview shows is what a pair of idiots they are. But when he finally gets done he can just say, 'oh I didn't know that was banned, well didn't fully know'.

 

[JimPanzen]

Froome trying to come across as a naive guy new to the sport is not washing with me.

That's exactly what struck me the most. Well, the whole interview is a disaster imo.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Question asked and answered

looks like MC trained Froome well on the questions that might be asked

i'm not buyin' it..
kudos to PK for keeping it together

 

[elduggo]

I'm almost convinced now that if indeed (LOL) Froome is dirty, theres a good chance he doesn't even know it himself.

But the missus does.

 

[bigcog]

well if they did I can't imagine they'd have their wives/girlfriends with them

She is his manager, so it's not that odd is it. Anyway the point is they haven't and they won't so nil points for that one.

 

[JimPanzen]

Also nice how Cound claims to have improved his diet and got his weight down another 3kg due to her "bit of a interest in sports nutrition". She accomplished what professionals weren't able to do before with Froome

 

[the sceptic]

I'm almost convinced now that if indeed (LOL) Froome is dirty, theres a good chance he doesn't even know it himself.

But the missus does.

If Froome was an isolated case then I would believe Cound and her mother is behind this transformation

 

[Race Radio]

It does seem that Paul asked all the questions the clinic wanted asked......except for one

 

[Merckx index]

CF: I’ve done one VO2 test I think in 2007 with the UCI school (in Aigle). The results were online - I think my VO2 was between 80 and 85, and that would have been at about 70 kilos. VO2 is weight specific, so take away 4 kilos and that could possibly raise it I guess, I don’t know.

This is the biggest problem in the entire interview. A V02max of 80-85 (which refers to V02max/kg, so is unaffected by weight loss--how could an elite rider possibly be unaware of that) just doesn't fit with some of his times, particularly the Madone. You would need a 100% lactate threshold and efficiency through the roof. And the point about the weight loss has already been debunked by his ITT times, which would not be much affected by that.

CF: Yeah, I mean I can’t give a reason as to why I go faster than some of those guys, I can’t. I just know that I do my training and . . .

One of the most remarkable transformations in the history of the sport, or maybe of any sport, and he has no idea how he did it?

 

[elduggo]

She is his manager, so it's not that odd is it. Anyway the point is they haven't and they won't so nil points for that one.

yes, it is odd. Its very odd. When has any active cyclist ever given an interview before with anyone else there (manager, wife, girlfriend, whatever)? And more importantly, why was she there?

 

[the sceptic]

This is the biggest problem in the entire interview. A V02max of 80-85 (which refers to V02max/kg, so is unaffected by weight loss--how could an elite rider possibly be unaware of that) just doesn't fit with some of his times, particularly the Madone. You would need a 100% lactate threshold and efficiency through the roof. And the point about the weight loss has already been debunked by his ITT times, which would not be much affected by that.



One of the most remarkable transformations in the history of the sport, or maybe of any sport, and he has no idea how he did it?

great post.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

This is the biggest problem in the entire interview. A V02max of 80-85 (which refers to V02max/kg, so is unaffected by weight loss--how could an elite rider possibly be unaware of that) just doesn't fit with some of his times, particularly the Madone. You would need a 100% lactate threshold and efficiency through the roof. And the point about the weight loss has already been debunked by his ITT times, which would not be much affected by that.



One of the most remarkable transformations in the history of the sport, or maybe of any sport, and he has no idea how he did it?

Saying V02 max is unaffected by weight because it's expressed in per kilo terms is one of the best examples of 'they walk among us' (the idiots) that I've seen in a while.

If Froome doubled his weight you think his V02maxperkilo would be unaffected?

 

[LaFlorecita]

She is his manager, so it's not that odd is it. Anyway the point is they haven't and they won't so nil points for that one.

Haven't seen a double interview with Contador and his brother/manager

 

[Race Radio]

This is the biggest problem in the entire interview. A V02max of 80-85 (which refers to V02max/kg, so is unaffected by weight loss--how could an elite rider possibly be unaware of that) just doesn't fit with some of his times, particularly the Madone. You would need a 100% lactate threshold and efficiency through the roof. And the point about the weight loss has already been debunked by his ITT times, which would not be much affected by that.



One of the most remarkable transformations in the history of the sport, or maybe of any sport, and he has no idea how he did it?

Perhaps I misunderstand your point, are you really saying Vo2 max is not effected by weight?

Otherwise agreed, hard to do 6.95 w/kg for 30 minutes with a 85. Last guy to do that was Armstrong

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Perhaps I misunderstand your point, are you really saying Vo2 max is not effected by weight?

Otherwise agreed, hard to do 6.95 w/kg for 30 minutes with a 85. Last guy to do that was Armstrong

Not only is he saying that, he's mocking Froome for not understanding that.

Quite embarrassing.

Anyhow, I'm off to watch tennis.

 

[HIF I A]

CF: ...And I also thought he had more style. He looked good on a bike...

The real reason he doesn't like Basso.

 

[bigcog]

Haven't seen a double interview with Contador and his brother/manager

When Contador has been interviewed by PK in the same manner otherwise it's just the usual horsesh*te ... I notice nobody has answered that point. Contador wouldn't even contemplate such an interview.

 

[ScienceIsCool]

Not only is he saying that, he's mocking Froome for not understanding that.

Quite embarrassing.

Anyhow, I'm off to watch tennis.

Ouch. You really put yourself out there in an embarrassing way.

You've made an erroneous assumption that any weight Froome is gaining/losing is pure ballast. At 2-3% body fat, you don't drop a kilo of pure fat unless you're taking Aicar. You're marginally right in that VO2max doesstill shift a percentage or two, but will not jump from 80-85 to 90-95.

If I were you, I'd make an apology to Merckx and enter a dialog with him. He's very well educated, well spoken, and willing to both listen and learn as well as explain and teach.

John Swanson

 

[LaFlorecita]

When Contador has been interviewed by PK in the same manner otherwise it's just the usual horsesh*te ... I notice nobody has answered that point. Contador wouldn't even contemplate such an interview.

Indeed.... Because he doesn't want to look like an idiot