Kimmage on Wiggins, Sky

[gooner]

Kimmage is an excellent interviewer. Plenty of stuff there to hold Froome to account on for any potential future inconsistencies arise(eg: cortisone use in training).

It's a pity the Sunday Independent don't have too much interest in the sport, otherwise we'd see more of this on his part.

 

[trevim]

What the hell is Cound doing in the interview? Can't Froome speak for himself like a small kid? Anyway good job from Kimmage I would say.

 

[noddy69]

When Contador has been interviewed by PK in the same manner otherwise it's just the usual horsesh*te ... I notice nobody has answered that point. Contador wouldn't even contemplate such an interview.

Answered what point ?
The whole interview they both come across as bare faced liars with a made up story. I hope I am wrong but there was very little truth in that interview. Contador would not even contemplate sitting down for a decent interview, Froome hasn't been caught, Contador is a proven cheat, he isn't that stupid.

 

[LaFlorecita]

PK: Yes, I was going to ask about that. A few weeks ago, you tweeted that you hadn’t been tested during your training camp up there (Mount Teide). Why didn’t you do it last year or the year before?

CF: Because this year was the first time . . .

MC: The frequency of your tests has become a lot more apparent.

MC cutting him off again

CF: We were tested once up there I think in 2012, so I wasn’t going to tweet it then. I never went there in 2011; in 2013 we went up there and we weren’t tested.

PK: At all?

CF: Not in Tenerife.

PK: So why not tweet about it then?

CF: Because it didn’t seem such a big issue for me. I felt ‘Okay, it’s Team Sky here’ and that they had obviously got a good measure of our levels and didn’t need to test us quite as much. But when I saw the whole of Astana up there (this year) and other teams, and that no one had been tested I was like: ‘Hold on, we’re all getting ready for the Tour de France which is less than six weeks away and no one is being tested! Something is not right.’ So I believe it was my place to say something.

So when it's only Sky on Teide, no tests is okay, if there are other teams no tests is NOT okay

 

[bigcog]

Indeed.... Because he doesn't want to look like an idiot

Don't you see it as problematic, in terms of his reputation, that he refuses to comment or be interviewed on these issues ? Or is it just excepted by his fans that he is an unrepentant doper. If so, he appears to be getting a free pass which is utterly insane.

 

[Winterfold]

For some reason I keep thinking of this

http://youtu.be/n5P-uZqm0RE

 

[TourOfSardinia]

When Contador has been interviewed by PK in the same manner otherwise it's just the usual horsesh*te ... I notice nobody has answered that point. Contador wouldn't even contemplate such an interview.

It wouldn't work - because of AC's clumsy English.
We need a Spanish Kimmage, then a translator
Fat/thin chance!

 

[SundayRider]

'I've cut back on carbs completely'

How is that even possible with the amount of training they do?

 

[elduggo]

For some reason I keep thinking of this

http://youtu.be/n5P-uZqm0RE

I keep thinking of this

 

[sniper]

it's froomacil
...
so kids out there, better start since teenagers, otherwise it looks rather awkward.

hehehe

Indeed, can you imagine Contador or for that matter Wiggins doing it ?

i could imagine armstrong doing it.

But when he finally gets done he can just say, 'oh I didn't know that was banned, well didn't fully know'.

this

I'm almost convinced now that if indeed (LOL) Froome is dirty, theres a good chance he doesn't even know it himself.
But the missus does.

occurred to me as well.

Also nice how Cound claims to have improved his diet and got his weight down another 3kg due to her "bit of a interest in sports nutrition". She accomplished what professionals weren't able to do before with Froome

good point.

Kimmage is an excellent interviewer.

it took you a while to recognize that.

kimmage by comparison makes walsh look like a naive, incompetent fool, objectively speaking.

 

[del1962]

Haven't seen a double interview with Contador and his brother/manager

Anyway you should be happy with the inteview, CF is basically saying he thinks Bertie is now competing clean

 

[deValtos]

i could imagine armstrong doing it.

Forgetting this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI

 

[Merckx index]

Saying V02 max is unaffected by weight because it's expressed in per kilo terms is one of the best examples of 'they walk among us' (the idiots) that I've seen in a while.

If Froome doubled his weight you think his V02maxperkilo would be unaffected?

Doubling weight is an extreme, pathological example. As JS notes, riders are close to the limit with their V02max/kg values. It will fluctuate as the rider goes offseason and maybe gains weight, but once his career is established, he should be pretty close to the limit. That’s why we can have records of this value, and speak of some rider having a certain value. If it were that easy to raise it by losing weight, the term would lose its usefulness as a way of comparing different athletes.

If Froome lost 4 kg, he might improve it a little, but it’s unlikely his V02max (not expressed per kg) would be unaffected. If he could really do that, it doesn’t speak well for his training prior to that weight loss. Sure, you hear about riders coming into the season and saying they have to lose so many kilos to reach top form, but that is to reach some limit. Getting beyond that is very problematic.

If you disagree, I invite you to provide examples of riders or other athletes who significantly increased their V02max/kg values over the course of their careers. Any who did were very likely doping.

I'll agree, though, I shouldn't have mocked Froome. In fact, he himself in that quote expresses doubt that he could have raised his V02max by losing weight.

 

[del1962]

hehehe
i could imagine armstrong doing it.

this
occurred to me as well.

good point.

it took you a while to recognize that.

kimmage by comparison makes walsh look like a naive, incompetent fool, objectively speaking.

Really, then why didn't we see a similar interview with Armstrong by Kimmage or Walsh

 

[LaFlorecita]

Don't you see it as problematic, in terms of his reputation, that he refuses to comment or be interviewed on these issues ? Or is it just excepted by his fans that he is an unrepentant doper. If so, he appears to be getting a free pass which is utterly insane.

Contador told Kimmage once: "you are free to believe whatever you want"

That is much smarter than forcing a lot of bull**** down everyone's throats.

And yes a lot of his fans accept he's dirty

 

[The Hitch]

Kimmage is an excellent interviewer. Plenty of stuff there to hold Froome to account on for any potential future inconsistencies arise(eg: cortisone use in training).

It's a pity the Sunday Independent don't have too much interest in the sport, otherwise we'd see more of this on his part.

There are already a million inconsistencies.

 

[sniper]

Forgetting this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI

well, obviously not with kimmage, but armstrong has gone on the record in big TV shows and in big interviews answering questions about doping.
What Froome did here with Kimmage strikes me as similar, from a psychological point of view.

 

[Pack Fodder]

well if they did I can't imagine they'd have their wives/girlfriends with them

Wiggins did a doc called a year in yellow in 2012 - right bang in the middle he did a sit down interview including questions on his doping outburst. Cath was sat right beside him, interrupting away.

6.45 in

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19l7gz_bradley-wiggins-a-year-in-yellow-part-02_shortfilms

The difference is only that Cound has a larger official role in Froome's life as his manager. But Wiggins interview with wife talking over him? Absolutely.

 

[LaFlorecita]

It wouldn't work - because of AC's clumsy English.
We need a Spanish Kimmage, then a translator
Fat/thin chance!

Clumsy English? Haven't you seen his interview in English after la Vuelta 2012, that was one awesome interview

But you make a very good point, he can't do an interview with Kkmmage without a translator

 

[Fzotrlool]

I wonder if there will be published a couple of critical analyzes which follow up on the interview?

Le Journal du Dimanche, I have particularly in mind.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Anyway you should be happy with the inteview, CF is basically saying he thinks Bertie is now competing clean

Yes and we all know that is horse****

 

[Race Radio]

Ouch. You really put yourself out there in an embarrassing way.

You've made an erroneous assumption that any weight Froome is gaining/losing is pure ballast. At 2-3% body fat, you don't drop a kilo of pure fat unless you're taking Aicar. You're marginally right in that VO2max doesstill shift a percentage or two, but will not jump from 80-85 to 90-95.

If I were you, I'd make an apology to Merckx and enter a dialog with him. He's very well educated, well spoken, and willing to both listen and learn as well as explain and teach.

John Swanson

He was not at 2-3% when he was at the UCI

When he was at the UCI he was @71kg, perhaps 72..... he is now 66kg. That is a lot. Granted it does not mean a shift from 80 to 95 but it still will result in a shift, it is not zero

I am sure one of our math folks here can work it out

 

[gooner]

it took you a while to recognize that.

kimmage by comparison makes walsh look like a naive, incompetent fool, objectively speaking.

Said it numerous times including up thread well before this interview.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1411663&postcount=542

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1411826&highlight=kimmage+interviewer#post1411826

 

[Digger]

Really, then why didn't we see a similar interview with Armstrong by Kimmage or Walsh

Walsh did interview him in 2001.
About doping, Ferrari etc

 

[sniper]

Said it numerous times including up thread well before this interview.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1411663&postcount=542

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1411826&highlight=kimmage+interviewer#post1411826

apologies, i stand corrected.