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Basecase

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Moose McKnuckles said:
Basecase = troll. Do not feed.

Has been banned here many times, I believe.

The only pain Armstrong feels is for himself. He's a crappy human being.
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eh, have not been banned. Perhaps you may want to withdraw that comment? mods?
 
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Basecase said:
I agree with you totally on your point above.

Not comparing him with Robin Hood at at all. For one, esentially, LA didn't discriminate who he "stole" from / de-frauded, and could be argued only a certain clique benefitted from goings-on.

I'd just like Tom to define this pain he mentioned? Maybe too much to ask ....

Tom was fairly definite in his mentioning of this pain, so I am wondering can he elaborate?

Like who was in pain due to Lance? . . . . Tom?
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This article scratches the surface nicely: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/50493449/ns/sports-cycling/

Plenty of pain and hurt experienced by these people. And that's just a small part of it.

If it's physical pain you're looking for then no, as far as I know he hasn't caused that.
 
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Ah the Andreu's, D Walsh.

Is that the best examples of pains suffered?

Those that rode on the coat-tails of dopers at one stage or another til they took the moral high ground and in some cases, made money from anti-doping agenda.

Those really the best examples of pain suffered Tom?

Walsh has made a great career from his admirable doping fight. I am sure he can refer to greater pains in his life.

Frankie A, the guy who later signed up with Rock Racing and had a continued career in the sport.

Betsy, not sure what she does but she sure makes herself available to many platforms to express her opinion.

They really the best examples??

Could you have been a bit melodramtic in describing such as pain?
 
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Ah the Andreu's, D Walsh.

Is that the best examples of pains suffered?

Those that rode on the coat-tails of dopers at one stage or another til they took the moral high ground and in some cases, made money from anti-doping agenda.

Those really the best examples of pain suffered Tom?

Walsh has made a great career from his admirable doping fight. I am sure he can refer to greater pains in his life.

Frankie A, the guy who later signed up with Rock Racing and had a continued career in the sport.

Betsy, not sure what she does but she sure makes herself available to many platforms to express her opinion.

They really the best examples??

Could you have been a bit melodramtic in describing such as pain?
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Yup, and I'm sure when Lance's crocodile tears start flowing tonight you'll be reaching for the tissues right along with him. P!ss off.

Yeah, Mike Anderson has really profited off all of this.

These probably aren't the best examples because I'm sure he's done horrible things to his wives, girlfriends and others we've not heard about.

Melodramatic? No.
 
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Yup, and I'm sure when Lance's crocodile tears start flowing tonight you'll be reaching for the tissues right along with him. P!ss off.

Yeah, Mike Anderson has really profited off all of this.

These probably aren't the best examples because I'm sure he's done horrible things to his wives, girlfriends and others we've not heard about.

Melodramatic? No.
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The "P!ss off" really compliments your contentions.

:rolleyes:

So your best example is an employee who chose to work for LA, and then things went sour as he found LA to be doping, at which time there were numerous rumours of?

And your vague references to LA's personal relationships? Without any substantiation? You're sure of these things ... yet you haven't heard about them? huh?
 
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Has anyone proposed a drinking game for this yet? I know for many of you it will air early in the morning but if you can record it until you can safely get hammered, I suggest drinking every time he mentions the following:

Cancer
Livestrong
Tour de France
My Kids
Culture of (insert anything here, but I bet "Culture" will be used often)
Fake Tears
Real Tears (riiiight)

What else?
 
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Basecase said:
The "P!ss off" really compliments your contentions.

:rolleyes:

So your best example is an employee who chose to work for LA, and then things went sour as he found LA to be doping, at which time there were numerous rumours of?

And your vague references to LA's personal relationships? Without any substantiation? You're sure of these things ... yet you haven't heard about them? huh?
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So is it your contention that nobody has suffered from Lance's actions?

"Things went sour" - that's what you call LA's attempt to destroy someone's life?
 
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So is it your contention that nobody has suffered from Lance's actions?

"Things went sour" - that's what you call LA's attempt to destroy someone's life?
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Of course people have suffered but you made it sound like the worst attrocity ever. That's why I said you were melodramatic.

There are legal remedies for people that have been wronged. LA is a man of means.

We don't know the exact details of what went on with LA and MA. Why did MA take the job in the first place? He can't have been that cocooned that he didn't hear doping speculation at the time.

You think MA didn't make a few bob telling his story?

Do you still think tremendous pains have been suffered and nothing can make up for them?

BTW - there's another thread here that discounts any claim for monies the Andreau's might have.

Emma O'R is also mentioned. She has suffered sure but she also got exposure. We know she isn't what LA alluded her to be. She got experience from working with USPS. She has a physio busines now AFAIK. Courts may still be an option to her? She could write a book if she wanted. She was on Irish TV a few months back and didn't seem to be in pain ....
 
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amp300 said:
Has anyone proposed a drinking game for this yet? I know for many of you it will air early in the morning but if you can record it until you can safely get hammered, I suggest drinking every time he mentions the following:

Cancer
Livestrong
Tour de France
My Kids
Culture of (insert anything here, but I bet "Culture" will be used often)
Fake Tears
Real Tears (riiiight)

What else?
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Redemption
Steroids
epo or Edgar Allen Poe
Testosterone
Transfusion
UCI
Witch hunt
Vendetta
Sorry
Glow Time (drink twice at any mention)
 
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Basecase said:
Of course people have suffered but you made it sound like the worst attrocity ever. That's why I said you were melodramatic.

There are legal remedies for people that have been wronged. LA is a man of means.

We don't know the exact details of what went on with LA and MA. Why did MA take the job in the first place? He can't have been that cocooned that he didn't hear doping speculation at the time.

You think MA didn't make a few bob telling his story?

Do you still think tremendous pains have been suffered and nothing can make up for them?

BTW - there's another thread here that discounts any claim for monies the Andreau's might have.

Emma O'R is also mentioned. She has suffered sure but she also got exposure. We know she isn't what LA alluded her to be. She got experience from working with USPS. She has a physio busines now AFAIK. Courts may still be an option to her? She could write a book if she wanted. She was on Irish TV a few months back and didn't seem to be in pain ....
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I never said it was the worst atrocity ever.

What we know about MA and LA is that when "things went sour" Lance essentially destroyed MA's life.

Just because someone isn't showing pain in an interview doesn't mean they haven't been wronged and suffered because of it. EO can write a book or do whatever she wants.

You admitted people have suffered. A lot of people. That was my point. Getting a legal settlement from Lance's "means" won't make up for that in my opinion.
 
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Basecase said:
Emma O'R is also mentioned. She has suffered sure but she also got exposure. We know she isn't what LA alluded her to be. She got experience from working with USPS. She has a physio busines now AFAIK. Courts may still be an option to her? She could write a book if she wanted. She was on Irish TV a few months back and didn't seem to be in pain

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Lol @ being described as a ***** in public being described as gaining exposure.
 
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amp300 said:
Has anyone proposed a drinking game for this yet? I know for many of you it will air early in the morning but if you can record it until you can safely get hammered, I suggest drinking every time he mentions the following:

Cancer
Livestrong
Tour de France
My Kids
Culture of (insert anything here, but I bet "Culture" will be used often)
Fake Tears
Real Tears (riiiight)

What else?
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I'll join you tonight and add "my mother always told me".

All kind of Doping allowed. Of course. To make the whole thing authentic. Starting with the white line - finish with a bong, puke and then go to sleep - to be ready for 2nd night.

I guess we will be nearly alone around here, since most of the super-obsessed-Lance people won't watch and won't waist their time with this episode. wink wink
Even Lance sounds more plausible and more credible then them.
In reality they would even miss their marriage or birth of child to watch this sheit.


See you later.
 
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Basecase said:
Of course people have suffered but you made it sound like the worst attrocity ever. That's why I said you were melodramatic.

There are legal remedies for people that have been wronged. LA is a man of means.

We don't know the exact details of what went on with LA and MA. Why did MA take the job in the first place? He can't have been that cocooned that he didn't hear doping speculation at the time.

You think MA didn't make a few bob telling his story?

Do you still think tremendous pains have been suffered and nothing can make up for them?

BTW - there's another thread here that discounts any claim for monies the Andreau's might have.

Emma O'R is also mentioned. She has suffered sure but she also got exposure. We know she isn't what LA alluded her to be. She got experience from working with USPS. She has a physio busines now AFAIK. Courts may still be an option to her? She could write a book if she wanted. She was on Irish TV a few months back and didn't seem to be in pain ....
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I've got much respect for this lady.
After all that has happened - she, and only she, handles it souvereign, with much class, and always had some good words about Lance left.
This is greatness. This is what it looks like and always should.

Chapeau.
 
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Basecase said:
I'm sure many were disappointed by LA's carry on, but tell me about this actual pain?

How many cancer sufferers were inspired by reading his book when he was a hero?

Anyway I'm digressing - I'd just like Tom to elaborate on the pain he described, instead of his initial reponse of passing it off as if one should automatically know.
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Okay give you that

What about the majority of donations given to LieStrong never going to "cancer research & awareness" but to his own pockets

If those went to real charities it would of....
 
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amp300 said:
Has anyone proposed a drinking game for this yet? I know for many of you it will air early in the morning but if you can record it until you can safely get hammered, I suggest drinking every time he mentions the following:

Cancer
Livestrong
Tour de France
My Kids
Culture of (insert anything here, but I bet "Culture" will be used often)
Fake Tears
Real Tears (riiiight)

What else?
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Of course,

http://drunkcyclist.com/2013/01/16/the-oprah-winfrey-lance-armstrong-interview-drinking-game/
 
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