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Miburo said:Don't see the issue.
Exactly, Flo. That's what I meant. All respects to his personal feelings, but it was a matter of etiquette. Let's hear what he's got to say though. Peace everyone!LaFlorecita said:Indeed. He does not have to put his hand on his chest or anything like that but like any other athlete he should pay respect when the national anthem is played. See Aru. He is Italian but removed his hat for the Spanish national anthem. Landa removing his cap would not have meant he feels he is Spanish, it would just show he respects other athletes.robertocarlos said:Aru is not Spanish and had his hat off. Landa should done the same. Contador had his had I hand over his chest, Mikel should've stood like Aru. I am not Catholic but if I step into a church I would take whatever head garment I am wearing, just our if respect even though I am firmly against Catholicism. On the other hand why do organizers in most professional sports keep on playing national anthems? They are professional athletes bit Olympic amateurs.
This comes across as a bit childish IMO "look at me I am not taking off my cap because I hate Spain "
Good luck with getting rid of nationalism!robertocarlos said:Aru is not Spanish and had his hat off. Landa should done the same. Contador had his had I hand over his chest, Mikel should've stood like Aru. I am not Catholic but if I step into a church I would take whatever head garment I am wearing, just our if respect even though I am firmly against Catholicism. On the other hand why do organizers in most professional sports keep on playing national anthems? They are professional athletes bit Olympic amateurs.
BYOP88 said:Imagine the grief he'd (possibly) be getting if he did take his cap off.
I see no issue with it, if he was cussing or something then yes.
Oh dear!Jagartrott said:Well, people who are offended then probably will have died of shock seeing the Spanish Cup Final yesterday.
I, for one, find this amusing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hhXRL_yLr-Y
Freedom of expressing ones opinion in a non-violent manner.
sartoris said:Exactly, Flo. That's what I meant. All respects to his personal feelings, but it was a matter of etiquette. Let's hear what he's got to say though. Peace everyone!LaFlorecita said:Indeed. He does not have to put his hand on his chest or anything like that but like any other athlete he should pay respect when the national anthem is played. See Aru. He is Italian but removed his hat for the Spanish national anthem. Landa removing his cap would not have meant he feels he is Spanish, it would just show he respects other athletes.robertocarlos said:Aru is not Spanish and had his hat off. Landa should done the same. Contador had his had I hand over his chest, Mikel should've stood like Aru. I am not Catholic but if I step into a church I would take whatever head garment I am wearing, just our if respect even though I am firmly against Catholicism. On the other hand why do organizers in most professional sports keep on playing national anthems? They are professional athletes bit Olympic amateurs.
This comes across as a bit childish IMO "look at me I am not taking off my cap because I hate Spain "
Ah okay, not sure why I thought you were Catalanhrotha said:Nope, Madrid!LaFlorecita said:Out of interest hrotha from which part of Spain are you? (I seem to remember Catalunya?)
Maybe I should have saved this information for later, though. Spanish nationalists never expect a guy from Madrid to hold my views, so the reveal always throws them off (usually after they've made fools of themselves for a couple of posts ).
robertocarlos said:Aru is not Spanish and had his hat off. Landa should done the same. Contador had his had I hand over his chest, Mikel should've stood like Aru. I am not Catholic but if I step into a church I would take whatever head garment I am wearing, just our if respect even though I am firmly against Catholicism. On the other hand why do organizers in most professional sports keep on playing national anthems? They are professional athletes bit Olympic amateurs.
WheelofGear said:At least Landa is not acting like the Basque fans.
hrotha said:It's not comparable with Aru's reaction, as Italy has no real grievances against Spain. When/if those grievances are resolved, the most radical Basque nationalists will most likely take off their caps without second thought.
I don't think he disrespected Contador, either. It had zero impact on Contador's moment on the podium.
Yeah, so much that you can't even see the cyclists when they are riding through the orange swarm.Red Rick said:WheelofGear said:At least Landa is not acting like the Basque fans.
I've never seen them do anything strange, they love cycling
LaFlorecita said:Ah okay, not sure why I thought you were Catalanhrotha said:Nope, Madrid!LaFlorecita said:Out of interest hrotha from which part of Spain are you? (I seem to remember Catalunya?)
Maybe I should have saved this information for later, though. Spanish nationalists never expect a guy from Madrid to hold my views, so the reveal always throws them off (usually after they've made fools of themselves for a couple of posts ).
Your inability to so much as acknowledge those grievances perfectly illustrates why Landa had good reason not to take his cap off.The_Cheech said:What "grievances" are you talking about? LOL.
The only grievance Basques ought to have is that they enjoy fiscal privileges worthy of, and granted by, a king. A successor of whom they now publicly boo and denounce like a bunch of pussies (even though he actually goes out of his way to speak Basque too).