Le Tour 2018 stage 11: Albertville > La Rosière 108,5 km

[Pirazziattacks]

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Ahaha, can't stop laughing. The guy was winning the Flèche du Sud. You know who was winning the Flèche du Sud? Andy Schleck.

AT A certain point you should feel ashamed of yourself. I can’t believe you can seriously say that winning the fleche du sud is in any way a predictor of pro performances in the mountains. As a mater of fact coming up with a race held in LUX to justify a performance in the alps is more than ludicrous. Seriously, you made my day kiddo.

Wigans was pretty good at team pursuit

I kept him out for a reason. He’s another product of the great British sport renaissance

Funnily enough Wiggo became a GC rider at Garmin, not Sky. So no, it's really not that simple.

 

[Forever The Best]

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111 riders withint 26 minutes. So still the sprinters bus has to finish

Just throw them out if they are OTL. It would be the only positive thing from today's stage.

 

[spalco]

Grupetto has arrived, but no Cavendish I think (not that it matters much anymore).

 

[rlntlssly]

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111 riders withint 26 minutes. So still the sprinters bus has to finish

Including Sagan, if PCS is right. I believe that riders who finish OTL can be allowed to continue but are docked all their points. Given that Gaviria finished within the limit, he could be in green tomorrow.

Heh. Not gonna happen. UCI/Aso consistency is all over the place (or joke).
Would be hilarios though.
Did Gav really finished in the limit and PS not? :Question:

PCS says that Gaviria finished in the Uran group, 26'07" down. Sagan isn't listed yet, so presumably he's further back, though mistakes do happen.I make the time limit 27'15", although IIRC it's normally rounded up to the next minute.
Edit: Now Sagan's listed in the group. Groenewegen and Cavendish definitely OTL, though, along with others.

 

[franic]

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Sky, the worst thing to happen to cycling since, well... you know.

They might be literal worst thing after this tbh

The guy with one ball was a genuine talent as a youngster and would have been competitive anyway (not dominant though). These two could have been two decent soigneurs

Your lack of knowledge of Thomas' junior results fatally undermines your incorrect comment.

Oh come off it. He’s a 32 year old trackie come failed cobbled classic specialist who has never finished better than fifteenth in twelve GTs. If he is seriously a Tour contender, this is the biggest transformation in the history of the sport. Bigger than Armstrong, bigger than Wiggins, bigger than Mauri, bigger even than Froome who was the previous biggest outlier in the modern history of Grand Tour racing. Coming second in the Junior Tour of Wales is the new winning the Anatomic Jock Race.

But, but...he was winning La Flèche du Sud!!! You know what? Tomorrow Sonny Colbrelli will win L’Alpe d’Huez because as an U23 he won the Trofeo Alcide De Gasperi. And you know who won the Trofeo Alcide de Gasperi? Emanuele Sella, Paolo Savoldelli, Gibo Simoni!!
La Fleche du Sud! Can’t stop laughing! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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Disaster for Movistar and Michelton. Martin and Dumoulin tried hard, Fuglsang and Zakarin looked bad. Kudos to Nieve and Caruso. More of the same tomorrow ?

Martin was a total idiot today, what did he think would happen when he went and Froome went with him. It was almost like he has a Sky shirt on.

Yes, he would have been much better off sitting in the Quintana group watching two stronger time triallists disappear further up the road. Have you ever considered offering these brain genius tactical insights to a team on a professional basis as a DS?

 

[drebelo]

Tour de france app putting zabel in the withdrawals by coming outside of the time limit. maybe kittel with him

 

[glassmoon]

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111 riders withint 26 minutes. So still the sprinters bus has to finish

Including Sagan, if PCS is right. I believe that riders who finish OTL can be allowed to continue but are docked all their points. Given that Gaviria finished within the limit, he could be in green tomorrow.

Heh. Not gonna happen. UCI/Aso consistency is all over the place (or joke).
Would be hilarios though.
Did Gav really finished in the limit and PS not? :Question:

PCS says that Gaviria finished in the Uran group, 26'07" down. Sagan isn't listed yet, so presumably he's further back, though mistakes do happen.I make the time limit 27'15", although IIRC it's normally rounded up to the next minute.
Edit: Now Sagan's listed in the group. Groenewegen and Cavendish definitely OTL, though, along with others.

Thx

 

[tobydawq]

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111 riders withint 26 minutes. So still the sprinters bus has to finish

Including Sagan, if PCS is right. I believe that riders who finish OTL can be allowed to continue but are docked all their points. Given that Gaviria finished within the limit, he could be in green tomorrow.

Heh. Not gonna happen. UCI/Aso consistency is all over the place (or joke).
Would be hilarios though.
Did Gav really finished in the limit and PS not? :Question:

PCS says that Gaviria finished in the Uran group, 26'07" down. Sagan isn't listed yet, so presumably he's further back, though mistakes do happen.I make the time limit 27'15", although IIRC it's normally rounded up to the next minute.
Edit: Now Sagan's listed in the group. Groenewegen and Cavendish definitely OTL, though, along with others.

The time limit was 31'27". Before the stage, it was announced that they added two percentage points to the time limit no matter what the winning average speed would be.

 

[Pharazon]

Tour de france app putting zabel in the withdrawals by coming outside of the time limit. maybe kittel with him

yep...

the website is showing Renshaw, Zabel and Kittle OTL so far

 

[drebelo]

Confirmed kittel and cavendish out of the tour

 

[LPP68!]

Interview with Dumoulin on the Dutch television: 'I learned to ski in this village, where my uncle, who recently passed away, always rented a big chalet for the whole family.' He aparently has some footsteps iand memories n the area which inspired him today.

 

[rlntlssly]

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111 riders withint 26 minutes. So still the sprinters bus has to finish

Including Sagan, if PCS is right. I believe that riders who finish OTL can be allowed to continue but are docked all their points. Given that Gaviria finished within the limit, he could be in green tomorrow.

Heh. Not gonna happen. UCI/Aso consistency is all over the place (or joke).
Would be hilarios though.
Did Gav really finished in the limit and PS not? :Question:

PCS says that Gaviria finished in the Uran group, 26'07" down. Sagan isn't listed yet, so presumably he's further back, though mistakes do happen.I make the time limit 27'15", although IIRC it's normally rounded up to the next minute.
Edit: Now Sagan's listed in the group. Groenewegen and Cavendish definitely OTL, though, along with others.

The time limit was 31'27". Before the stage, it was announced that they added to percentage points to the time limit no matter what the winning average speed would be.

In that case, a massive mea culpa for false information, and a "what's the point of the rulebook" moan at ASO.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

And Groenewegen JUST made it in.

 

[saganftw]

kittel is probably happy to go home,he was annoyed the whole tour

 

[Screecher]

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And Groenewegen JUST made it in.

He had 2 minutes and 5 seconds to spare. Not JUST imo, but could have a hard time making it tomorrow.

 

[tobydawq]

Zabel was sprinting across the line by himself about three seconds after the time had gone.

https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1019615519354359808

Kittel was 12 minutes too late, Cavendish even more.

So Katusha are down to four riders.

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

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Sky, the worst thing to happen to cycling since, well... you know.

They might be literal worst thing after this tbh

The guy with one ball was a genuine talent as a youngster and would have been competitive anyway (not dominant though). These two could have been two decent soigneurs

Your lack of knowledge of Thomas' junior results fatally undermines your incorrect comment.

Oh come off it. He’s a 32 year old trackie come failed cobbled classic specialist who has never finished better than fifteenth in twelve GTs. If he is seriously a Tour contender, this is the biggest transformation in the history of the sport. Bigger than Armstrong, bigger than Wiggins, bigger than Mauri, bigger than Indurain, bigger than Riis, bigger even than Froome who was the previous biggest outlier in the modern history of Grand Tour racing. Coming second in the Junior Tour of Wales is the new winning the Anatomic Jock Race.

Lol. No.

 

[movingtarget]

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Piti combative price? WTF? ***.

Well he did sit behind Soler for a long time...........Nieve was the obvious winner.

 

[VO2 Max]

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Sky, the worst thing to happen to cycling since, well... you know.

They might be literal worst thing after this tbh

The guy with one ball was a genuine talent as a youngster and would have been competitive anyway (not dominant though). These two could have been two decent soigneurs

Your lack of knowledge of Thomas' junior results fatally undermines your incorrect comment.

Obviously he was a great junior on the road, every guy out there today was (except Froome). And to say a grad of the GB system was a strong pursuit rider is a tautology. Thing is if, when he was 21 you’d have heard he would win a RVV or PR you’d have believed it as a real possibility, but the Tour???

Big few days for Gez now. The decision to bin a potentially great Classics career culminates in the decisions made by and for him over the next week. He’s really no younger than Froome so this is where he stands up for himself and becomes a real star, or takes his usual subservient route and is remembered forever as the guy who chose to be George Hincapie when he could have even been a Tom Boonen. Next Monday is big for him, will he announce he’s leaving Sky or staying put? That will tell us a lot (if we haven’t already seen it on the road!)

 

[movingtarget]

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111 riders withint 26 minutes. So still the sprinters bus has to finish

I think they changed the time limit.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I just realized, given the bonus Dumoulin had, it means Thomas was 50s faster over the climb, and Froome 30s. The other contenders were about the same time (Quintana, Roglic, Bardet)...

Damn.

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

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I just realized, given the bonus Dumoulin had, it means Thomas was 50s faster over the climb, and Froome 30s. The other contenders were about the same time (Quintana, Roglic, Bardet)...

Damn.

Yes, but he looked ruined by the end of that. I hope he can recover for tomorrow. His tour depends on it.

 

[Poursuivant]

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Jesus Christ, these stage threads are annoying. In the beginning of the stages, there is nothing but moaning about how ridiculously boring everything is.

Then when the action starts earlier than expected, often people criticise the actors for moving stupidly early.

And when the favourites battle and everybody makes mistakes which lead to Sky winning after a much more entertaining stage than expected, everybody screams about how blatantly they are breaking rules and the clinic/PRR border is eradicated.

Lol, so true :lol:

 

[zigzag wanderer]

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Zabel was sprinting across the line by himself about three seconds after the time had gone.

https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1019615519354359808

Kittel was 12 minutes too late, Cavendish even more.

So Katusha are down to four riders.

Looks like Zabel has been reinstated - and Cav's still not arrived.