Le Tour 2018 stage 16:Carcassonne - Bagnères-de-Luchon 218km

[Screecher]

Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

 

[loge1884]

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Any news of Demare?

He's been seen taking a direct shortcut from Mente to Luchon

doing a proper Rosie Ruiz, he would have been in Luchon prior to the Quick Step rider ....

http://time.com/3822577/rosie-ruiz-history/

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

How.

:lol:

 

[Inquitus]

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Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

How.

:lol:

French Moto Magic!

 

[ruamruam]

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Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

How.

:lol:

He's French

 

[Lequack]

Gilbert climbing up:

 

[MatParker117]

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Everyone's hands are tied. Froome isn't allowed attack. Dumolin can't risk an attack. Thomas doesn't need to attack. They're all waiting for the TT and have been this past week.

Roglic is more than happy finishing 4th and he is out of contention for the overall, outside chance of a podium if one of the top 3 crack.

I can see Dumoulin taking over a minute on Thomas in the TT but not enough to overhaul him. I think he has got enough to overhaul Froome on GC (only needs 11 seconds).

Is he happy finishing second though? I don't think so, hopefully not for the spectacle as otherwise we will see a load more defensive riding for the remaining stages.

On a similar length TT in last year's Giro, Dumo put 49secs into G.

 

[woodburn]

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Everyone's hands are tied. Froome isn't allowed attack. Dumolin can't risk an attack. Thomas doesn't need to attack. They're all waiting for the TT and have been this past week.

Roglic is more than happy finishing 4th and he is out of contention for the overall, outside chance of a podium if one of the top 3 crack.

I can see Dumoulin taking over a minute on Thomas in the TT but not enough to overhaul him. I think he has got enough to overhaul Froome on GC (only needs 11 seconds).

Is he happy finishing second though? I don't think so, hopefully not for the spectacle as otherwise we will see a load more defensive riding for the remaining stages.

Dumoulin's best chance, though, will be to play Thomas and Froome against each other. Hard to see him dropping both tomorrow except in a final K attack which won't net huge amount of time. You know Froome is going to attack at some point. Follow his wheel and he might win the whole thing.

 

[happytramp]

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Everyone's hands are tied. Froome isn't allowed attack. Dumolin can't risk an attack. Thomas doesn't need to attack. They're all waiting for the TT and have been this past week.

Roglic is more than happy finishing 4th and he is out of contention for the overall, outside chance of a podium if one of the top 3 crack.

I can see Dumoulin taking over a minute on Thomas in the TT but not enough to overhaul him. I think he has got enough to overhaul Froome on GC (only needs 11 seconds).

Is he happy finishing second though? I don't think so, hopefully not for the spectacle as otherwise we will see a load more defensive riding for the remaining stages.

Unfortunately I think Dumolin is willing to roll the dice in the TT rather than risk losing time on a steep climb. It's like two teams clearly waiting for a penalty shootout rather than risk losing in extra time.

 

[Keram]

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Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

How the hell he can be 41 minutes down when he was 20 minutes down before climbs. This is way too ridiculous...

 

[rlntlssly]

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Everyone's hands are tied. Froome isn't allowed attack. Dumolin can't risk an attack. Thomas doesn't need to attack. They're all waiting for the TT and have been this past week.

Roglic is more than happy finishing 4th and he is out of contention for the overall, outside chance of a podium if one of the top 3 crack.

I can see Dumoulin taking over a minute on Thomas in the TT but not enough to overhaul him. I think he has got enough to overhaul Froome on GC (only needs 11 seconds).

Is he happy finishing second though? I don't think so, hopefully not for the spectacle as otherwise we will see a load more defensive riding for the remaining stages.

On a similar length TT in last year's Giro, Dumo put 49secs into G.

On a similar length TT when Thomas was injured. After one mountain stage, rather than at the very end. There are enough variables to make it far from a sure bet, but more than a minute seems unlikely...

 

[Robert5091]

Philippa York wrote nothing about farmers

Chapeau Ala! (and Gilbert is very lucky) Otherwise ... zzzzzzzzz ....

 

[yaco]

Re: Le Tour 2018 stage 16:Carcassonne - Bagnères-de-Luchon 2

Grand Bornard and Luchon, two mountain stages with decents had no GC action. Why to include such kind of stages in TDF? MTFs bring at least some kind of action.

I have always complained about finishes on descends and people in here gets very animated that are more fun and bring more action. It could very well be (when that happens) but if we play the statistics it will always be better to go with MTF. It just assures us of some action.

Agree 100 % - There is never any justification for a descent finish in a multi mountain stage - After all you've already done two or three descents - Will also add the ITT should have been today - Otherwise when you have TTer's they ride conservatively until stage 20.

 

[yetiyeti]

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Gilbert climbing up:

My god, that's way worse on the other side of the wall than I'd have thought. He's so lucky not to be seriously hurt.

 

[Keram]

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Gilbert climbing up:

Damn he is tough guy :surprised:

 

[Red Rick]

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Everyone's hands are tied. Froome isn't allowed attack. Dumolin can't risk an attack. Thomas doesn't need to attack. They're all waiting for the TT and have been this past week.

Roglic is more than happy finishing 4th and he is out of contention for the overall, outside chance of a podium if one of the top 3 crack.

I can see Dumoulin taking over a minute on Thomas in the TT but not enough to overhaul him. I think he has got enough to overhaul Froome on GC (only needs 11 seconds).

Is he happy finishing second though? I don't think so, hopefully not for the spectacle as otherwise we will see a load more defensive riding for the remaining stages.

On a similar length TT in last year's Giro, Dumo put 49secs into G.

On a similar length TT when Thomas was injured. After one mountain stage, rather than at the very end. There are enough variables to make it far from a sure bet, but more than a minute seems unlikely...

Thomas is in the shape of his life, expecting him to pull a subpar ITT doesn't seem logical at all to me.

 

[yaco]

Looking at that picture shows Gilbert is a lucky boy - It looks a 3m drop.

 

[Lequack]

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Philippa York wrote nothing about farmers

Chapeau Ala! (and Gilbert is very lucky) Otherwise ... zzzzzzzzz ....

Yeah the farmers

 

[hrotha]

You guys are blaming descent finishes because we're getting sooo much action on MTF's, right?

Just like with short vs long stages. Yay, opportunism!

 

[Lequack]

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Looking at that picture shows Gilbert is a lucky boy - It looks a 3km drop.

After finishing the stage:

 

[jaylew]

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Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

How the hell he can be 41 minutes down when he was 20 minutes down before climbs. This is way too ridiculous...

It's Démare.

 

[shalgo]

Why are cycling tv producers so opposed to using a split screen? It would have been easy to show the break and the GC group on the screen at the same time, but instead we saw virtually nothing of the GC group.

 

[willbick]

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Looks like Démare made it in time. 41 minutes 20 seconds down.

How the hell he can be 41 minutes down when he was 20 minutes down before climbs. This is way too ridiculous...

It's Démare.

Lost 10 minutes each climb - seems reasonable no?

 

[William H]

There was nothing wrong with the stage profile - I mean, its not a monster tough stage but not every stage should be - blame the attitude of the riders and the strength of Sky.

A long non-technical descent can be bad, but on this sort of finish you've got every chance of keeping or extending your gap over the top.

 

[Red Rick]

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There was nothing wrong with the stage profile - I mean, its not a monster tough stage but not every stage should be - blame the attitude of the riders and the strength of Sky.

A long non-technical descent can be bad, but on this sort of finish you've got every chance of keeping or extending your gap over the top.

If you're only going with 4 mountain stages that are not junior distance, please make them raceable.

As for MTFs vs descents, it barely matters when you use weak cat 1 climb without a possibility of using any other climb. But since we're using the same 5 towns in the Pyrenees every freaking year there's barely any option