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mewmewmew13 said:
Everyone here is an expert

Read about the Yellowstone Club and Tim and Edra Blixseth's bankruptcy. The Yellowstone Club, before it collapsed, was a planned community for the ultra-rich. Lemond was a member. One of the celebrity net worth websites lists his net worth at $40M.

You are free to pretend what you want.
 
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MarkvW said:
Read about the Yellowstone Club and Tim and Edra Blixseth's bankruptcy. The Yellowstone Club, before it collapsed, was a planned community for the ultra-rich. Lemond was a member. One of the celebrity net worth websites lists his net worth at $40M.

You are free to pretend what you want.

You offered civil discourse, and then didn't respond. I am not sure what to make of that, as you seemed genuine? I was certainly genuine in my response. You are one of the hardest to read members here, and that isn't meant to be a slight in any way. I realize that, with the lack of non-verbal cues, it is impossible to truly read anyone from online forums, but even then, it is possible to pick up regular patterns and traits likely consistent with their personal interaction.

But you are a mystery to me, and I don't mean that as an insult.
 
MarkvW said:
Read about the Yellowstone Club and Tim and Edra Blixseth's bankruptcy. The Yellowstone Club, before it collapsed, was a planned community for the ultra-rich. Lemond was a member. One of the celebrity net worth websites lists his net worth at $40M.

You are free to pretend what you want.

Thanks Mark..but I don't like to pretend. Really.
but it is amazing that so many people here pretend to know everything..and that is not aimed at you necessarily.

I just don't believe that Lemond made out well in any way from his years of 'disfavor' with Lance.
 
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Jenny from the block?!!
 
MarkvW said:
Read about the Yellowstone Club and Tim and Edra Blixseth's bankruptcy. The Yellowstone Club, before it collapsed, was a planned community for the ultra-rich. Lemond was a member. One of the celebrity net worth websites lists his net worth at $40M.

You are free to pretend what you want.

Greg & his money. He likes to "pretend" he has none and "lance" took it all. Greg was paid a "confidential" amount that he could spend on tape recorders.

Are you recording this? No, of course not.
 
Anyway... just read the last few pages and we've come from "recording device evil" to "rich arrogant ***". That is quite something.

Just pointing out that, as always, no one is claiming Greg is a saint, except for Hog and Mark... Only to try and destroy "the saint" afterwards.

Looks like a fireman starting his own fire just to prove everyone he's the best at turning it off.

(grabs popcorn)

See you in a few pages ;)
 
thehog said:
Greg & his money. He likes to "pretend" he has none and "lance" took it all. Greg was paid a "confidential" amount that he could spend on tape recorders.

Are you recording this? No, of course not.

Greg LeMond doesn't pretend that he has no money and Lance took it all. That's just not true. That charade is only played out here in the Clinic.
 
MarkvW said:
You're being purposely obtuse.

Of COURSE he was hiding part of it!! He had to!! The settlement was
CONFIDENTIAL!!

Do you seriously think Greg Lemond's lawyer would BREACH the terms of a CONFIDENTIAL settlement in Greg Lemond's favor shortly after signing the settlement agreement?

Hoggie's position makes a lot more sense than yours.

And, thanks for admitting that you do not know the complete terms of the settlement.

Silly question.

No, I don't think any rational attorney would breach the terms of a confidential settlement ..

IF the terms included a confidentiality provision...

... unless of course we were talking about some of Lance's lawyers... ;)

BUT, no matter what size font you use, nor whether you use bold face or underline, there was no such gag order as part of this settlement.

LeMond, Trek reach out-of-court deal: DiBoise told ESPN.com that LeMond is not constrained from speaking about the case

Ergo, the lawyer has, in fact, told you exactly what the settlement was and was explicitly allowed to discuss it

And, Trek's attorney has also elected to speak about the settlement: Ralph Weber, attorney for Trek, declined to talk about terms of the settlement or characterize it as a victory for Trek. "Both parties are pleased with the result," he said.

While it is on good authority that the $200k represents the only financial portion, you can figure this out readily from the statements of the two attorneys. Otherwise, you cannot reconcile that it only took one week to come to an agreement that both parties were happy with.

The Big Payout asserted by thehog remains an obvious and odious falsehood.

As for LeMond being 'rich' it may be noteworthy that Trek sold over $100m worth of LeMond bicycles. Presumably LeMond received at least a small royalty for those sales over the years. Possibly even enough to retire on. :rolleyes:

MarkvW said:
Read about the Yellowstone Club and Tim and Edra Blixseth's bankruptcy. The Yellowstone Club, before it collapsed, was a planned community for the ultra-rich. Lemond was a member. One of the celebrity net worth websites lists his net worth at $40M.

You are free to pretend what you want.

Who is pretending? You?

Yes, read all about it.

Montana Supreme Court backs former cyclist LeMond's claim against Blixseth

LeMond is seeking properties worth millions of dollars after asserting that Blixseth reneged on a promise to give the cycling legend a five-acre lot in exchange for LeMond recruiting 10 new members to join the ultra-luxury ski and golf resort located near Big Sky.

LeMond's attorneys said he upheld his end of that deal, but the lot was sold to someone else after being enlarged to 28 acres.

High court justices upheld a lower court finding that LeMond deserved to be compensated for the breach of contract.

But justices questioned whether the lower court was right to award LeMond title to five different lots at the club valued at up to $3 million each.

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In a concurring but separate opinion, Chief Justice Mike McGrath wrote that LeMond "is not entitled to a windfall on all of the Overlook properties."...

Greg served as a marketing vehicle and was entitled to the 'overlook lots' in exchange for introducing new, paying customers. Kind of like an in-kind real estate commission.

The lot(s), however, are arguably worthless as it/they are undeveloped and the entire project bankrupt:

BILLINGS ? Real-estate developer Tim Blixseth was ordered to pay $41 million to creditors of the luxury Montana resort he helped drive into bankruptcy, by a federal judge who slammed the one-time billionaire for distorting the facts in the case.

Blixseth diverted more than $200 million from the Yellowstone Club for personal use ? then sought to blame its 2008 financial collapse on others, including his ex-wife.


As for what CelebrityNetWorth says about LeMond's worth, what relevance does this have? For anything?

Dave.
 
D-Queued said:
Silly question.

No, I don't think any rational attorney would breach the terms of a confidential settlement ..

IF the terms included a confidentiality provision...

... unless of course we were talking about some of Lance's lawyers... ;)

BUT, no matter what size font you use, nor whether you use bold face or underline, there was no such gag order as part of this settlement.



Ergo, the lawyer has, in fact, told you exactly what the settlement was and was explicitly allowed to discuss it

And, Trek's attorney has also elected to speak about the settlement: Ralph Weber, attorney for Trek, declined to talk about terms of the settlement or characterize it as a victory for Trek. "Both parties are pleased with the result," he said.

While it is on good authority that the $200k represents the only financial portion, you can figure this out readily from the statements of the two attorneys. Otherwise, you cannot reconcile that it only took one week to come to an agreement that both parties were happy with.

The Big Payout asserted by thehog remains an obvious and odious falsehood.

As for LeMond being 'rich' it may be noteworthy that Trek sold over $100m worth of LeMond bicycles. Presumably LeMond received at least a small royalty for those sales over the years. Possibly even enough to retire on. :rolleyes:



Who is pretending? You?

Yes, read all about it.

Montana Supreme Court backs former cyclist LeMond's claim against Blixseth



Greg served as a marketing vehicle and was entitled to the 'overlook lots' in exchange for introducing new, paying customers. Kind of like an in-kind real estate commission.

The lot(s), however, are arguably worthless as it/they are undeveloped and the entire project bankrupt:

BILLINGS ? Real-estate developer Tim Blixseth was ordered to pay $41 million to creditors of the luxury Montana resort he helped drive into bankruptcy, by a federal judge who slammed the one-time billionaire for distorting the facts in the case.

Blixseth diverted more than $200 million from the Yellowstone Club for personal use ? then sought to blame its 2008 financial collapse on others, including his ex-wife.


As for what CelebrityNetWorth says about LeMond's worth, what relevance does this have? For anything?

Dave.

If I were to believe you--that the entire amount of Lemond's Trek settlement went to charity--then I would have to believe that Greg's lawyers didn't get paid. Yeah...right...not gonna happen.

The info about Lances wealth was not addressed to your posts. It relates to another topic.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
You mean the guy that won the TdF on his first try?

Again, the term revolutionary is over used, but that's what EPO was. As in, everything before it is nothing like what comes after.

Fignon was no angel, no problem. But comparing Fignon to anything about Mr. 60% or later can't be done. It's like comparing a wooden wheel to a vaguely modern bike wheel. They are both round.. End.

I'm not sure why you just selected that part of my post. That was just clarifying that Fignon was a cheat, not Lemond.

To your point about comparing the natural or physical abilities of Fignon and Riis. No argument from me. Both cheats though.
 
D-Queued said:
I'd like to thank thehog for pointing out an egregious fallacy on my part.

Yes, Lance has donated to Livestrong.

I am embarrassed and very sorry to have misstated this.

Dave.

No problems, I've been wrong before (many times). No harm done and the discussion was civil. I enjoyed the debate but time to move on and that includes myself.
 
D-Queued said:
I'd like to thank thehog for pointing out an egregious fallacy on my part.

Yes, Lance has donated to Livestrong.

I am embarrassed and very sorry to have misstated this.

Dave.

Good on you for owning up to a factual error.

Would that others would do the same. We could have reasonable discussions here.
 
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I don't read or post much these days. Can anyone help me understand when thehog was in an accident that resulted in a head injury? It's the only way I can explain his current posting patterns.
 
thehog said:
We've seen varying opinions on LeMond, Armstrong & Landis.

That's a problem because?

I was thinking exactly the same thing when looking at the Armstrong thread, I've seen a lot more varied range of opinions there. Maybe the forum is having a Prague Spring.
 
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