Less well known cycling records or facts

[Bavarianrider]

Tony Martin is the only rider to win Paris-Nice, a Pais Vasco stage, a Criterium du Dauphine stage, a Tour de France stage and a Vuelta a Espana stage, as well as Wolrd championchip title within the same year

 

[Bavarianrider]

In which universe did Ullrich won a tour de france

Well in the one all of us, except you apparantly, live

 

[DenisMenchov]

Lance Armstrong has won a total of 0 TDFs.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Is Andy Schleck the highest finisher in the first Grand Tour?

Who is the highest placed TDF rookie since 1990?

 

[Bavarianrider]

Who is the highest placed TDF rookie since 1990?[/QUOTE]

Ullrich, 2nd in 1996

 

[King Boonen]

If you stacked every living cyclist who ever won a GT stage on top of each other in order...


The older guys would have very sore heads

 

[Netserk]

Tony Martin is the only rider to win Paris-Nice, a Pais Vasco stage, a Criterium du Dauphine stage, a Tour de France stage and a Vuelta a Espana stage, as well as Wolrd championchip title within the same year

I think it's more relevant to mention Wiggo's P-N, Dauphine & Tour combo (three biggest stage races in France) or Nibali's T-A, Trentino & Giro (three biggest stage races in Italy).

Have anyone ever won Catalunya, Pais Vasco & Vuelta in the same year?

 

[DenisMenchov]

Who is the highest placed TDF rookie since 1990?

Ullrich, 2nd in 1996[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

 

[RedheadDane]

If you stacked every living cyclist who ever won a GT stage on top of each other in order...


The older guys would have very sore heads

Wouldn't that technically be the case for every long-running race?

Also, what the heck would Contador do? Stand on top of Sastre, who'd be standing on top of... Contador...

Sorry... thought you said won a GT (as in the GC)...

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Mark Cavendish has won more mass start stages of the Tour de France than any other rider.

The riders currently ahead of him on total stage wins have achieved this in time trials.

 

[spalco]

But he also podiumed the Vuelta a couple of times, as well as a 4th in the Giro, so that way he could be considered a GC rider. I guess the type of rider I'm looking for didn't really exist back in those days, as the really great ones were good at almost everything. Among the Visconti/LLS types (for current examples), I can't find anyone better than Argentin. Cancellara is not too shabby at 12 wins, as I guess that in a GT context a time trial specialist would have to be defined as a stage hunter.

How about Hushovd with 14 wins (and wins in all three GTs) under those criteria, or is/was he too good a sprinter to qualify?

 

[Circuit]

Greg LeMond is the only male cyclist to win the Junior World Championship and the Elite World Championship, separated by 4 years.

 

[The Hitch]

Is Andy Schleck the highest finisher in the first Grand Tour?

Maurice garin
oh and didn't le professor win his first gt. Was his first tour, don't know if he did sth beforem

 

[Netserk]

Maurice garin
oh and didn't le professor win his first gt. Was his first tour, don't know if he did sth beforem

He won his first (two) Tours, but not his first GT.

 

[EvansIsTheBest]

Is Andy Schleck the highest finisher in the first Grand Tour?

No, there is a number of riders who won their first GT (and even guys like Gimondi who finished 3rd in the Giro and 1st in the Tour in their first year of GT riding were arguably more impressive in their debut). Anquetil won his first GT (he is also the rider with most GT podiums and he never finished worse than 3rd in the Giro in 6 participations, not bad for a guy whose weak point was climbing), so did Coppi. The most impressive GT debut is probably the Badger though. Went to the Vuelta '78 to see if he could compete over three weeks and win the TDF one day - won it. Then won the Tour the same year, and the '79 Tour and '80 Giro. So he was 4/4 before being forced out of the '80 Tour while being in yellow because of tendinitis. As he also won Tour 81, 82 Giro 82 and Vuelta 83, he could very well have won his first 9 GTs. Of course even his accomplishments pale in comparison of Merckx who just happened to win 10 consecutive GT he participated in (could have been 12 without a controversial exclusion of the 1969 Giro).
There might be others but I can't think of any at the moment.

 

[The Hitch]

He won his first (two) Tours, but not his first GT.

Luigi Ganna then.

 

[Morbius]

Since Merckx, only two riders have won the Giro before winning the Tour for the first time, and they both won them in the same year. Roche 87 and Pantani 98.

 

[DenisMenchov]

No, there is a number of riders who won their first GT (and even guys like Gimondi who finished 3rd in the Giro and 1st in the Tour in their first year of GT riding were arguably more impressive in their debut). Anquetil won his first GT (he is also the rider with most GT podiums and he never finished worse than 3rd in the Giro in 6 participations, not bad for a guy whose weak point was climbing), so did Coppi. The most impressive GT debut is probably the Badger though. Went to the Vuelta '78 to see if he could compete over three weeks and win the TDF one day - won it. Then won the Tour the same year, and the '79 Tour and '80 Giro. So he was 4/4 before being forced out of the '80 Tour while being in yellow because of tendinitis. As he also won Tour 81, 82 Giro 82 and Vuelta 83, he could very well have won his first 9 GTs. Of course even his accomplishments pale in comparison of Merckx who just happened to win 10 consecutive GT he participated in (could have been 12 without a controversial exclusion of the 1969 Giro).
There might be others but I can't think of any at the moment.

Thank you for your reply, but I was mostly interested in GT results since 1990.

 

[icefire]

No, there is a number of riders who won their first GT (and even guys like Gimondi who finished 3rd in the Giro and 1st in the Tour in their first year of GT riding were arguably more impressive in their debut). Anquetil won his first GT (he is also the rider with most GT podiums and he never finished worse than 3rd in the Giro in 6 participations, not bad for a guy whose weak point was climbing), so did Coppi. The most impressive GT debut is probably the Badger though. Went to the Vuelta '78 to see if he could compete over three weeks and win the TDF one day - won it. Then won the Tour the same year, and the '79 Tour and '80 Giro. So he was 4/4 before being forced out of the '80 Tour while being in yellow because of tendinitis. As he also won Tour 81, 82 Giro 82 and Vuelta 83, he could very well have won his first 9 GTs. Of course even his accomplishments pale in comparison of Merckx who just happened to win 10 consecutive GT he participated in (could have been 12 without a controversial exclusion of the 1969 Giro).
There might be others but I can't think of any at the moment.

Add to that: Hinault never finished a GT worst than 2nd

 

[will10]

Riders who have won their very first GT stages? eg Boardman's prologue? (which I'm not 100% on, before my time).

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Riders who have won their very first GT stages? eg Boardman's prologue? (which I'm not 100% on, before my time).

I am pretty sure that is true.

Peter Sagan (in last years Tour)?

 

[screaming fist]

Riders who have won their very first GT stages? eg Boardman's prologue? (which I'm not 100% on, before my time).

Millar and Cancellara as well I think...

 

[Roderick]

I am pretty sure that is true.

Peter Sagan (in last years Tour)?

Sagan already won 3 stages in the Vuelta 11

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Sagan already won 3 stages in the Vuelta 11

Ah, I thought it was first attempt at a given GT. That said when did he first ride a GT?

 

[wirral]

Abdoujaparov is only one of four riders (Eddy Merckx,, Alessandro Petacchi, and Laurent Jalabert being the others) to have won the points competition in all three Grand Tours. Source.

And now, Mark Cavendish.