Tony Martin is the only rider to win Paris-Nice, a Pais Vasco stage, a Criterium du Dauphine stage, a Tour de France stage and a Vuelta a Espana stage, as well as Wolrd championchip title within the same year
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Miburo said:In which universe did Ullrich won a tour de france
I think it's more relevant to mention Wiggo's P-N, Dauphine & Tour combo (three biggest stage races in France) or Nibali's T-A, Trentino & Giro (three biggest stage races in Italy).Bavarianrider said:Tony Martin is the only rider to win Paris-Nice, a Pais Vasco stage, a Criterium du Dauphine stage, a Tour de France stage and a Vuelta a Espana stage, as well as Wolrd championchip title within the same year
Bavarianrider said:Who is the highest placed TDF rookie since 1990?
King Boonen said:If you stacked every living cyclist who ever won a GT stage on top of each other in order...
The older guys would have very sore heads
Squire said:But he also podiumed the Vuelta a couple of times, as well as a 4th in the Giro, so that way he could be considered a GC rider. I guess the type of rider I'm looking for didn't really exist back in those days, as the really great ones were good at almost everything. Among the Visconti/LLS types (for current examples), I can't find anyone better than Argentin. Cancellara is not too shabby at 12 wins, as I guess that in a GT context a time trial specialist would have to be defined as a stage hunter.
DenisMenchov said:Is Andy Schleck the highest finisher in the first Grand Tour?
He won his first (two) Tours, but not his first GT.The Hitch said:Maurice garin
oh and didn't le professor win his first gt. Was his first tour, don't know if he did sth beforem
No, there is a number of riders who won their first GT (and even guys like Gimondi who finished 3rd in the Giro and 1st in the Tour in their first year of GT riding were arguably more impressive in their debut). Anquetil won his first GT (he is also the rider with most GT podiums and he never finished worse than 3rd in the Giro in 6 participations, not bad for a guy whose weak point was climbing), so did Coppi. The most impressive GT debut is probably the Badger though. Went to the Vuelta '78 to see if he could compete over three weeks and win the TDF one day - won it. Then won the Tour the same year, and the '79 Tour and '80 Giro. So he was 4/4 before being forced out of the '80 Tour while being in yellow because of tendinitis. As he also won Tour 81, 82 Giro 82 and Vuelta 83, he could very well have won his first 9 GTs. Of course even his accomplishments pale in comparison of Merckx who just happened to win 10 consecutive GT he participated in (could have been 12 without a controversial exclusion of the 1969 Giro).DenisMenchov said:Is Andy Schleck the highest finisher in the first Grand Tour?
Netserk said:He won his first (two) Tours, but not his first GT.
EvansIsTheBest said:No, there is a number of riders who won their first GT (and even guys like Gimondi who finished 3rd in the Giro and 1st in the Tour in their first year of GT riding were arguably more impressive in their debut). Anquetil won his first GT (he is also the rider with most GT podiums and he never finished worse than 3rd in the Giro in 6 participations, not bad for a guy whose weak point was climbing), so did Coppi. The most impressive GT debut is probably the Badger though. Went to the Vuelta '78 to see if he could compete over three weeks and win the TDF one day - won it. Then won the Tour the same year, and the '79 Tour and '80 Giro. So he was 4/4 before being forced out of the '80 Tour while being in yellow because of tendinitis. As he also won Tour 81, 82 Giro 82 and Vuelta 83, he could very well have won his first 9 GTs. Of course even his accomplishments pale in comparison of Merckx who just happened to win 10 consecutive GT he participated in (could have been 12 without a controversial exclusion of the 1969 Giro).
There might be others but I can't think of any at the moment.
EvansIsTheBest said:No, there is a number of riders who won their first GT (and even guys like Gimondi who finished 3rd in the Giro and 1st in the Tour in their first year of GT riding were arguably more impressive in their debut). Anquetil won his first GT (he is also the rider with most GT podiums and he never finished worse than 3rd in the Giro in 6 participations, not bad for a guy whose weak point was climbing), so did Coppi. The most impressive GT debut is probably the Badger though. Went to the Vuelta '78 to see if he could compete over three weeks and win the TDF one day - won it. Then won the Tour the same year, and the '79 Tour and '80 Giro. So he was 4/4 before being forced out of the '80 Tour while being in yellow because of tendinitis. As he also won Tour 81, 82 Giro 82 and Vuelta 83, he could very well have won his first 9 GTs. Of course even his accomplishments pale in comparison of Merckx who just happened to win 10 consecutive GT he participated in (could have been 12 without a controversial exclusion of the 1969 Giro).
There might be others but I can't think of any at the moment.
I am pretty sure that is true.will10 said:Riders who have won their very first GT stages? eg Boardman's prologue? (which I'm not 100% on, before my time).
will10 said:Riders who have won their very first GT stages? eg Boardman's prologue? (which I'm not 100% on, before my time).
Don't be late Pedro said:I am pretty sure that is true.
Peter Sagan (in last years Tour)?
Ah, I thought it was first attempt at a given GT. That said when did he first ride a GT?Roderick said:Sagan already won 3 stages in the Vuelta 11
And now, Mark Cavendish.Don't be late Pedro said:Abdoujaparov is only one of four riders (Eddy Merckx,, Alessandro Petacchi, and Laurent Jalabert being the others) to have won the points competition in all three Grand Tours. Source.