Lesser known races thread 2021

[RedheadDane]

It's MacDonald though, but toby will know him as the other McCrossan, unless it actually is Ant.

Ah, okay. Was a bit unsure about the spelling.

Looked like Philipsen won in Flanders. He did.

 

[Netserk]

Well, (s)he didn't say "if and only if", now, did (s)he?

I don't know who McDonald is.

But the contrapositive statement is absurd, and so trivially is the original statement (if I understood it right).

 

[postmanhat]

Bad luck for Sagan to have Steimle with him. Bora still getting no help

 

[Samu Cuenca]

How did Sagan not get past Steimle?

 

[RedheadDane]

Bol slid out in the final corner, and a few others followed. Looked like the Uno-X guy was independant of Bol's crash, just... crashed as well.

Looked like that meant a lot to Steimle.

 

[DaLong]

How did Sagan not get past Steimle?

Steimle was sitting on his wheel for the last 20 km and when the crash happened he just bolted first.

 

[SafeBet]

Second day in a row Sagan completely misreads the final. Steimle wins.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

How did Sagan not get past Steimle?

DQS, the only team where random riders win all the time

Really, it looked like Sagan had to correct his line and lost Steimle's wheel as a result.

 

[postmanhat]

Oh no. Sagan mucks it up again. All that riding for a two second gain

 

[Samu Cuenca]

DQS, the only team where random riders win all the time

Really, it looked like Sagan had to correct his line and lost Steimle's wheel as a result.

He messed up the last corner a bit, but he still had the perfect position to win, especially when all the others crashed.

 

[BlueRoads]

Looked like the road was really slippery there, with two independent crashes?

 

[Billie]

How did Sagan not get past Steimle?

Steimle had a lot more speed coming out of the last corner.

 

[tobydawq]

He messed up the last corner a bit, but he still had the perfect position to win, especially when all the others crashed.

But if he messed it up, that means he exits the bend at a slower pace than Steimle, and then he could have been prime Cavendish and still wouldn't have been able to close that gap again.

But a curve inside the final 200 metres in a stage that ends in a bunch sprint is probably not the best idea (even if I didn't complain about that back when Sagan won his stage in the Giro ).

 

[BlueRoads]

On another note, what happened in Flanders? Did Bennett and Jakobsen get into a street fight during the race? None of them in the top 10?

 

[noob]

And QS gets stage win plus yellow with two different riders twice in a day in different countries.

 

[postmanhat]

He messed up the last corner a bit, but he still had the perfect position to win, especially when all the others crashed.

I'm not sure. Taking that corner correctly looked like key to victory. Very little road left after that.

Just to rub salt in the wound, Steimle overtakes him on GC to go second

 

[RedheadDane]

On another note, what happened in Flanders? Did Bennett and Jakobsen get into a street fight during the race? None of them in the top 10?

No clue... DQ just kinda... disappeared from the front.

 

[DaLong]

On the bright side, seeing Sagan shred the peloton on that climb was encouraging.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You guys are probably right, but I was just thinking there was no way he would mess that up when Steimle did a long leadout for no one.

 

[tobydawq]

You guys are probably right, but I was just thinking there was no way he would mess that up when Steimle did a long leadout for no one.

I thought the same but didn't know about the bend. So he was not doing a lead-out, he knew it was necessary to be first going into that corner.

 

[Netserk]

But if he messed it up, that means he exits the bend at a slower pace than Steimle, and then he could have been prime Cavendish and still wouldn't have been able to close that gap again.

But a curve inside the final 200 metres in a stage that ends in a bunch sprint is probably not the best idea (even if I didn't complain about that back when Sagan won his stage in the Giro ).

At least it wasn't as bad as the Tour de Suisse finish where Richeze won in 2016. That one was quite comical.

 

[ij74]

You guys are probably right, but I was just thinking there was no way he would mess that up when Steimle did a long leadout for no one.

Around 15 km before the final line, Sagan went for breakaway and only Steimle could follow him. However, he wasn´t working with Sagan, so eventually the breakaway had been caught. As a result of this, Sagan did not have the legs to outsprint Steimle in the final metres.

 

[Netserk]

Around 15 km before the final line, Sagan went for breakaway and only Steimle could follow him. However, he wasn´t working with Sagan, so eventually the breakaway had been caught. As a result of this, Sagan did not have the legs to outsprint Steimle in the final metres.

Was it Lutsenko who was on his wheel at the top of the climb? He had a tiny gap on Steimle until he hesitated.

 

[ij74]

Overall, it was a great stage to watch. I enjoyed it a lot. Always fun to see Sagan make the race interesting.

 

[ij74]

Was it Lutsenko who was on his wheel at the top of the climb? He had a tiny gap on Steimle until he hesitated.

It´s totally possible. Not sure, but I think the whole breakaway started with Lutsenko pacing. Maybe later he decided that it would be much better for him to go with "poursuivants".