Lidl-Trek (no longer Radioshack-Leopard Trek)

[LaFlorecita]

We're dutchies, so it's highly probable she's on drugs

Pffff......

 

[El Pistolero]

Radioshack...

In...

Disarray!!!

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Radioshack...

In...

Disarray!!!

really? since when?

 

[BillytheKid]

Of course if this was a Contador crash, there would be no such babbeling.

Cancellara's crash only hurts the sport. Both he and Boonen where on top form.
A Ballan-Cancellara escape would have have provided an epic chase.

Collerbones mend. So do fences. RSN's Gregory Rast finished fourth at PR last year. He was 11th yesterday despite RSN having to do most of the chasing after the Garmin mishap provided a false selection in the race.

I would put him in the second tier of contenders, but RSN still have someone who can win.

In racing, crashes happen. Misfortune strikes everyone. That's what separates fans who have raced and fans who have only watched from the sidelines.

 

[El Pistolero]

Of course if this was a Contador crash, there would be no such babbeling.

Cancellara's crash only hurts the sport. Both he and Boonen where on top form.
A Ballan-Cancellara escape would have have provided an epic chase.

Collerbones mend. So do fences. RSN's Gregory Rast finished fourth at PR last year. He was 11th yesterday despite RSN having to do most of the chasing after the Garmin mishap provided a false selection in the race.

I would put him in the second tier of contenders, but RSN still have someone who can win.

In racing, crashes happen. Misfortune strikes everyone. That's what separates fans who have raced and fans who have only watched from the sidelines.

I was talking about Klöden and Anita, what are you talking about?

 

[BillytheKid]

Radioshack...

In...

Disarray!!!

??????????????

 

[Red Rick]

Pffff......

U mad? i was joking alright

 

[LaFlorecita]

U mad? i was joking alright

I know.

 

[thehog]

I know.

Perplexing is the Hog model for years was to buy strong riders who in their own right could win big races and have them work as super domestiques. Strangely these days Fabian is working alone for the most of his races. Yes I know he had a few riders around him when he fell but if you look at the work Terpstra and Chavanel were doing then Cancellara hardly has a team to match.

Its not much to ask for when you’re the best classics rider in the world to have some real support in the biggest races of the year.

 

[BillytheKid]

Perplexing is the Hog model for years was to buy strong riders who in their own right could win big races and have them work as super domestiques. Strangely these days Fabian is working alone for the most of his races. Yes I know he had a few riders around him when he fell but if you look at the work Terpstra and Chavanel were doing then Cancellara hardly has a team to match.

Its not much to ask for when you’re the best classics rider in the world to have some real support in the biggest races of the year.

Whatever you say my monochromatic friend or er...shouldn't that be mono-thematic?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Perplexing is the Hog model for years was to buy strong riders who in their own right could win big races and have them work as super domestiques. Strangely these days Fabian is working alone for the most of his races. Yes I know he had a few riders around him when he fell but if you look at the work Terpstra and Chavanel were doing then Cancellara hardly has a team to match.

Its not much to ask for when you’re the best classics rider in the world to have some real support in the biggest races of the year.

Why did you quote ME?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

 

[hrotha]

Why did you quote ME?

The Hog quotes people seemingly at random, sometimes even himself. Don't worry about it.

 

[Cimber]

Fuglsang not happy about the way RNT is being run. He says its run totally the way the old Radioshack team was run, and nothing like Leopard. He misses the teamspirit of Leopard where there was a close unity between riders, mechanics and the rest of the staff. He doesnt sound like a rider who will stick around next season.

http://www.sporten.dk/cykling/fuglsang-alt-er-anderledes-paa-radioshack

 

[Cancellator]

After Cancellara's crash things seem to go from bad to worse. Classic campaign has been catastrophic after that. Andy's attack in FW was the epitome of pointlessness, Frank looked like he gave up after he had that flat. It is kind of sad that the best climbing results so far have come from granpa Horner.

Fuglsang has been plagued by crashes and in my opinion has never really lived up to his GC promise, and also has problems with the team. If Frank gets Giro leadership (which I'd like to see, if he actually tries to win it), then Jakob is a sure goner from the team next season.

So far, stronger team on paper than last year, for sure, but is it falling apart? Are they frustrated by the lack of results? And about the Tour, I was always a believer in Andy as a great threat, but if his TT does not improve the least bit then he will be in a lot of trouble against his more rounded opponents. What's more, Cancellara stated that helping out the brothers at the Tour won't be a priority in the Olympic year, and his injury can only reinforce that idea(an injury that is not healing smoothly, as he posted on his twitter).

This is not going well.

 

[hoerpi]

Fuglsang not happy about the way RNT is being run. He says its run totally the way the old Radioshack team was run, and nothing like Leopard. He misses the teamspirit of Leopard where there was a close unity between riders, mechanics and the rest of the staff. He doesnt sound like a rider who will stick around next season.

http://www.sporten.dk/cykling/fuglsang-alt-er-anderledes-paa-radioshack

This makes me feel sad for riders like Hermans and Rast who wanted away from RS...

 

[Forunculo]

Flavio Becca's rage at the end of the season could it be huge if the "best team in history" fails that big.

Fortunately Andy still can save the year with a brilliant performance in July, but he needs Contador attack according to the plan... oh wait

 

[airstream]

Flavio Becca's rage at the end of the season could it be huge if the "best team in history" fails that big.

Fortunately Andy still can save the year with a brilliant performance in July, but he needs Contador attack according to the plan... oh wait

what you mean?

 

[Forunculo]

what you mean?

Pyrenees TdF 2011. They stated that they count with Contador to break the race. And Contador's attack didn't happen, so they accused the other of always waiting for attack from Schlecks making a boring race.

 

[roadbiker]

After Cancellara's crash things seem to go from bad to worse. Classic campaign has been catastrophic after that. Andy's attack in FW was the epitome of pointlessness, Frank looked like he gave up after he had that flat. It is kind of sad that the best climbing results so far have come from granpa Horner.

Fuglsang has been plagued by crashes and in my opinion has never really lived up to his GC promise, and also has problems with the team. If Frank gets Giro leadership (which I'd like to see, if he actually tries to win it), then Jakob is a sure goner from the team next season.

So far, stronger team on paper than last year, for sure, but is it falling apart? Are they frustrated by the lack of results? And about the Tour, I was always a believer in Andy as a great threat, but if his TT does not improve the least bit then he will be in a lot of trouble against his more rounded opponents. What's more, Cancellara stated that helping out the brothers at the Tour won't be a priority in the Olympic year, and his injury can only reinforce that idea(an injury that is not healing smoothly, as he posted on his twitter).

This is not going well.

Nothing more to add and 3rd at this year's Le Tour is the maximum.

I would have expected a great Giro from Jakob, but let's see how his crash troubled his preperation.

Possible success at Cali could be a small compensation.

 

[Cancellator]

Possible success at Cali could be a small compensation.

Yes but so many of their riders have failed to defend their titles from last year... (Irizar, Sergent, Machado I think?)

 

[Christian]

Fuglsang not happy about the way RNT is being run. He says its run totally the way the old Radioshack team was run, and nothing like Leopard. He misses the teamspirit of Leopard where there was a close unity between riders, mechanics and the rest of the staff. He doesnt sound like a rider who will stick around next season.

http://www.sporten.dk/cykling/fuglsang-alt-er-anderledes-paa-radioshack

Thanks for the link. Interesting quote from google translate:

"We try to find a solution that both teams like, but it's not something you do from one day to another".

He still speaks of two different teams - not one unit ...

I always thought LEOPARD TREK had a good team spirit. How much of that was true and how much was just publicity I don't know but to me it seemed mostly genuine. That's why to me the lack of high profile results didn't matter so much - it seemed like they all enjoyed racing together and so results were only a matter of time, as we saw in the Vuelta or Lombardia. Now they lack results as well as team spirit ....

After Cancellara's crash things seem to go from bad to worse. Classic campaign has been catastrophic after that.

Yes Cancellara's crash was a big blow to the team but I would take out the classics team from most of the criticism. At least those riders were all in good shape, like Bennati, Rast, Roulston and especially Gallopin. Those guys also seemed like a real unit to me - maybe that has something to do with Cancellara, it seems like he is a good leader who can rally up his troops. Plus he actually delivered two wins, that is always good for the morale as well. Now when you look at the rest of the team, no one seems in good shape. Horner was for a little while but not anymore. Klöden, Andy far from top shape. Fränk is decent but not as strong as usual this time a year. Machado and Gerdemann fail to get results at the smaller stage races. Recently Nelson Oliveira has shown some good results but the rest have mostly disappointed.

Flavio Becca's rage at the end of the season could it be huge if the "best team in history" fails that big.

+1. This guy has done everything wrong that he possibly could. Last year he had a good team with a good spirit and good management. Of course not everything was perfect but that's normal and that's why you need to give it some time (cf. Sky). So this year he got the "pilot" that was missing (even though IMO Nygaard did a much better job than Bruyneel) but the plane still hasn't taken off yet He thought with Bruyneel he could buy guaranteed success but failed to realize that in sports you can't buy success. Now Nygaard's new team is killing it and I'm very happy for him. Their budget must be a fraction of Radioshack's and they are kicking their butts in every race so far

Yes but so many of their riders have failed to defend their titles from last year... (Irizar, Sergent, Machado I think?)

+1 ... the best thing that has happened to RSNT so far is Levi crashing, now at least they have a small chance to win California ...

 

[Cancellator]

Stuff about RSNT classics team being not that bad

When I said classics campaign, I was also referring to the hilly classics, where they were truly bad. I doubt the Schlecks can repeat even their "performance" from last year at LBL. I agree that the cobbled team is decent, but the only winner in there is Fabian. They can provide good support for plan A, but there is no plan B - Rast did not shine in Roubaix. Now if Bennati were a more dangerous sprinter... Also they gave the impression that they're over-reliant on Popo's work, he worked like a slave on the front of every race!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

.
+1. This guy has done everything wrong that he possibly could. Last year he had a good team with a good spirit and good management. Of course not everything was perfect but that's normal and that's why you need to give it some time (cf. Sky). So this year he got the "pilot" that was missing (even though IMO Nygaard did a much better job than Bruyneel) but the plane still hasn't taken off yet He thought with Bruyneel he could buy guaranteed success but failed to realize that in sports you can't buy success. Now Nygaard's new team is killing it and I'm very happy for him. Their budget must be a fraction of Radioshack's and they are kicking their butts in every race so far

Good post Chrisy...re: this part. That is the trouble of rich folks owning a team, look at football as well. Most of them don't have patience at all.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

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